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• "Defending My Enemy" - renqiulan - ♂ (2620 bytes) () 12/17/2023  19:34:30

• The American government has to be a people's government. - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:09:50

• the American people must not be a government's people. - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:10:39

• 问好秋兰 Thanks for sharing the insightful thoughts. - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:12:24

• Thank you, 盈盈! We have the right to speak truth to power. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:35:56

• We therefore also have the right to make politicians' lives - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:38:22

• a bit difficult. Life is never easy, by the way. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:39:40

• So, don't let politicians get fat and lazy. Haha! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:43:03

• 一腔热血勤珍重，洒去犹能化碧涛。用秋瑾的诗赠送秋兰。：）） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:30:35

• "free speech for some means free speech for none" - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:33:56

• I cannot agree more! 秋兰好，it means "All or None", right? - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:36:48

• "All" here means everyone: friends and foes. - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:38:25

• Generally speaking, it's true. But the word "all" may need - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:47:24

• some nuance. Free speech must not be taken for granted by - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:49:16

• someone with criminal motives. For example, whoever involved - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:51:17

• in child pornography has no ground to claim - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:54:16

• free speech rights.Freedom of speech isn't necessarily free. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:56:00

• That's right. Thanks for clarification! - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:04:09

• That's a good quote from the ACLU. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:44:57

• "Defending My Enemy" 好像和圣经里面所说的“Love your enemies" 有异曲同工之妙吧。 - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:43:42

• My understanding is that if, by defending my enemy, I am - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:06:11

• also defending everyone's freedom of speech, then it's the - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:09:07

• right thing to do. 圣经上所说的“爱你的敌人”，用意也许一样。记得托尔斯泰就说过：勿以暴力抗恶。托氏 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:13:10

• 之言更近圣经本意，虽然也是难以付诸实行。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:16:18

• 感谢小西！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:16:55

• 谢谢秋兰，晚安！ - CBA7 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:20:51

• 小西晚安！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:23:44

• If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:49:16

• of speech for views you don't like.. - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:50:00

• Precisely. Hi, 蓝灵！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:52:36

• Hi, renqiulan! If you're in favor of free speech (your turn) - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:12:28

• that means you're in favor of freedom for speakers - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:17:49

• you despise. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:20:28

• Some people's idea of free speech is that they're free to - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:31:18

• speak, but never let anyone say anything back. (your turn) - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:32:44

• So they always enjoy their monologues & never enjoy feedback - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:35:51

• They must be monologists speaking to no one. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:38:22

• Free speech is not just about speaking (your turn) - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:40:24

• It is also about listening. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:42:17

• Who said that? - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:43:55

• Tim Cook, I guess. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:45:09

• Our freedom of speech is freedom or death (your turn) - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:46:54

• We got to fight the powers that be. Sounds like rap. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:49:06

• You bet. You must be a rap fan. - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:51:20

• Guilty as charged. Haha! Is it Public Enemy by Chuck D? - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:53:54

• Correct. Ready for the next one? - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:56:50

• Yes, Ma'am! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:58:03

• If you want to overthrow the liberty of a nation, - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  22:59:41

• you must begin by denying freedom of speech to everyone - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  23:01:57

• except your good self. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  23:02:24

• No doubt about it. Good night! - 蓝灵 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  23:03:59

• Goodnight! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  23:05:07

• 我对FREE SPEECH的兴趣从到美国几年后逐渐消失 - 永远老李 - ♂ (745 bytes) () 12/18/2023  09:52:30

• 老李啊，书生需要理想和理论，尽管与现实不完全吻合。。。毕竟，这片土地上能说、敢说的地方还是要宽许多。 - 唐宋韵 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  13:01:09

• 是是。我这人觉悟比较低，只是柴米油盐的小农，格局太小 - 永远老李 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  13:16:22

• 怎样生活，怎样态度，在法治范围內悉听尊便。法，可以改；治，更可以改，并无一尊之说，与墙国迥异。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  15:50:26

• 一尊，墙国，法治，人治。。秋兰是中国通！ - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:46:53

• 谢谢唐宋君来评。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  15:51:54

• 谢谢永远老李！各适其适，民主特色。自由不等于置身法外，而法治跟人治却是两码子的事。目前，还是从人冶国度跑往法治国度者居多 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  15:43:32

• 北朝鲜脱北者就是生动的例子。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:45:43

• 我离开人治的地方很长时间了，我呆在法制的地方很长时间了，我目前只关心这法制的地方的事 - 永远老李 - ♂ (44 bytes) () 12/18/2023  17:06:58

• 前几天偶然翻看一下费孝通的《乡土中国》，觉得中国人的乡根特别深。当然，既来之则安之。晚安！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  20:19:27

• I have just changed the title of my post which is - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  15:54:37

• meant to be a book review (sort of). - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  15:55:23

• 谢谢秋兰！每周日晚上的读书沙龙如约而来。抱歉昨晚太困了。回个帖，就下线了。：）） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:37:32

• 实在太感谢盈盈了。谈不上沙龙，只不过在帖子上说几句书话而已。晚安！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  20:10:16

• 谢谢秋兰！欢迎参加美坛综艺秀假日活动！：）） - 梅雨潭 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/19/2023  08:26:22

• 感谢梅雨潭！当然乐意参加活动。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/19/2023  17:34:36

• Pamela Reif workout plan - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (11687 bytes) () 12/17/2023  14:42:23

• 帕梅拉是这两年欧美健身界很红的妹子。很多人跟着她的视频练习。这个送暖冬mm，和喜欢跳舞或者健身的朋友。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  14:44:25

• 爱妻点头。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:22:42

• 看来小梅也是健身达人呀 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:39:43

• 过后试试，谢谢分享！ - 攸墨尔 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  15:01:15

• 不谢。家里有瑜伽垫的，都可以随时练起来。不过需要毅力坚持。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  15:06:45

• 对，持之以恆。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:25:24

• 这个最难！：） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:40:25

• Nice abs. - 7grizzly - (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  16:02:40

• We used to walk with our butts while Russian-twisting. - 7grizzly - (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  16:17:41

• 这个估计除了跳操，还得撸铁。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:38:25

• 看着不错，考验耐心的时候到了：）） - 卫宁 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  16:33:08

• 我已经测试失败了。在家自己练太难了。等我打完流感疫苗，就打算回GYM了。：）） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:43:02

• 盈盈知道的真多。谢谢分享。 - 天边一片白云 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  16:54:23

• 白云知道的也不少。谢谢鼓励。：） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:48:08

• 盈盈mm太有心了，感动啊！现在就是觉得时间不够用，好像很多事要做。这虽然这些只有15分钟，可是要挤出来坚持下来不容易的。 - 暖冬cool夏 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:07:27

• 拉手，拉手，暖冬mm是热爱生活的人。每天坚持15分钟，一开始很难，形成习惯了，估计会容易一些。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:50:13

• 谢谢楼上各位。明天再来回帖聊。晚安。 - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  20:21:45

• 盈盈晚安！ - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:23:13

• 秋兰好！：）） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:38:57

• Go for it! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 12/17/2023  21:20:31

• Go, Go ,Let's go. ：）） - 盈盈一笑间 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 12/18/2023  16:44:13