• Dirty Mathematics - renqiulan - ♂ (1868 bytes) () 05/20/2023 21:47:41
• Don't take offense if you're driving an EV. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 21:54:47
• None taken. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:06:43
• Whew! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:08:12
• You kept your promise to post a piece on this subject. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:00:48
• Could I afford not to? Hahaha! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:01:36
• You're right to point out the dirty manufacturing process. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:04:40
• To do otherwise is to be an ostrich. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:09:37
• I like that. Qiulan, you're so cute. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:11:44
• Are you not? - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:12:43
• You guys are still up! - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:14:18
• Are you not? - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:14:49
• It's Saturday night, isn't? - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:16:04
• Wei Wei must have a question for me. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:17:10
• You bet. Qiulan, are you against EVs? - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:19:25
• No, no and no! I'm a clean-and-green guy. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:20:36
• Qiulan is against dirty mathematics. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:24:13
• Yes, EV manufacturers have a little dirty secret. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:25:24
• And what's that? - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:26:08
• Green technology, as we know it, is not very green. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:27:43
• My problem with EVs is that they're sold on a false claim. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:30:46
• Which is? - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:31:14
• This is their false claim: EVs are clean products. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:34:24
• They just shifted the dirty manufacturing... - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:39:01
• +100 - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:39:31
• They still are. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:39:36
• 三人夜话电动车。听后不止长知识,还觉得某国家可怜,替美国钜富承受污染环境的代价。 - LYJiang - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:48:15
• 先生说的,确是事实。原因不消说,还是要依赖美国市场,还是要赚取美元。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:52:10
• 俺要见周公去。各位晚安! - LYJiang - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:53:36
• 先生晚安! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:54:31
• 好,宣布散会! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:55:33
• 宁德市的电池供国内特斯拉,上海特斯拉现在出口欧亚,以后改--宁得市?获得世界电动汽车占有冠军:) - AP33912 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:26:00
• 他们紧随“中央”指示。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 06:03:14
• 终於有个中文出现。这儿是午夜英文論坛。香港午夜煲话粥! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:54:38
• 我们散会了,猫姐才驾到。晚安! - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:57:08
• 秋兰,不练中文了,晚安! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 22:59:24
• 猫姐不是夜猫子,晚安! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 23:06:45
• 中国大池厂在东海边的宁德,坏气70%会顺东海漂(飘)到世界各地,最终抵美:) - AP33912 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:21:00
• 100%同意。美商走的是“法律缝隙”,PRC唯美汇是图。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:54:02
• 秋兰,你谈的事情比较宽泛。一个具体问题,即使用solar panel和EV,我有下面的information供参考 -- - 唐宋韵 - ♂ (1292 bytes) () 05/20/2023 23:21:42
• You're still up. The power you tap into may neither be... - renqiulan - ♂ (571 bytes) () 05/20/2023 23:43:54
• I understand what you mean. My "math" is very simple and - 唐宋韵 - ♂ (1051 bytes) () 05/21/2023 08:23:58
• My point: Doing math dishonestly is doing dirty math. Thanks - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 15:07:16
• Misguided and ill-informed - 老键 - ♂ (485 bytes) () 05/21/2023 01:11:05
• Ford's EV sale pitch is what you're buying. Enjoy it. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:29:45
• 福特嘛,卖花赞花香。消费者为自身利益、环境保护,应尽量客观地了解EV正反两方的论据,兼听则明。 - LYJiang - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 06:12:39
• 先生所说极是,“正反两方面”/ open-minded 非常重要。 - 唐宋韵 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 08:43:20
• 学习了!这方面真不懂。你们有开电动车吗? - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:11:20
• 我今年开了一个多月,冷天耗能特别大,电池还是关键。 - AP33912 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:28:00
• 对。谢谢AP! 未来或许属于EV, 目前电池等等的制造过程太污染环境了。也因为这样,更因为成本,所以委予PRC作原产地。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:49:16
• 葱姐,周日早安!曾经有过一部EV,捐赠了。待制造过程真正符合环保标准,充电站基建一如加油站后再考虑EV 。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:40:59
• green 就是大忽悠 - ahniu - ♂ (80 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:24:38
• 谢谢ahniu!抄下油管接链了。EV 不 EV, 最终由消费者决定,起码在较自由的世界是如此的。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 06:01:20
• 舞文弄墨的人里难得见到这么清醒头脑的,大赞 - 颤音 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 13:41:11
• 谢谢颤音!大家都有各自的观点与角度,真理越辩越明,更希望越辩越文明。请颤音常来,发帖交流。再谢! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/21/2023 15:02:44
• California's broken green dream - shuier - ♀ (1006 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:17:22
• 但是有钱总是更豪横啊! - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:31:29
• 加州,德州的事最多,不爱听! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:35:56
• 明白。祝两位版主周末愉快! - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:58:52
• 但知富者愈富,但愿不是贫者愈贫。不少中產已迁出加州。 - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:57:38
• 我两个大学同学也在那边,也觉得加州愈来愈。。。。 - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:28:32
• 我们DC才是事最多了,一月6号,继续中,呵呵呵呵。。。。 - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:35:52
• This January 6 political drama is winding down. So boring. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:47:49
• Nominal GDP-wise, it's the world's 5th largest economy. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:52:53
• Gov Newsom: his state is the world's 4th largest economy. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:00:10
• I won't give currency to Gov Newsom's claim. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:01:21
• I like your pun, for the sake of fun. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:03:11
• Pun and fun rhyme.Seriously, post a piece on green tech. OK? - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:04:46
• Yes, Madam! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:07:53
• Thank you, Sir! - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:08:32
• Quite a debunking piece on the green dream! - 寒苇 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:33:12
• Thanks, Wei Wei. - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:34:03
• Sarcasm doesn't help with the future of mankind much - 老键 - ♂ (401 bytes) () 05/20/2023 18:38:10
• I can't disagree with you more. Their renewables are... - shuier - ♀ (572 bytes) () 05/20/2023 19:30:31
• Sarcasm or not, better to be more positive, right? - 老键 - ♂ (277 bytes) () 05/20/2023 21:15:42
• Ask questions. Do some fact-finding. That's positive. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 23:53:01
• Hi, 老键! I won't use "sarcasm" to characterize this post. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 19:44:03
• Hear! Hear! - 老键 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 21:06:40
• Hearing is a step closer to listening. I hope. - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 23:56:36
• green 就是一个大忽悠 - ahniu - ♂ (70 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:18:04
• watch objectivity - ahniu - ♂ (80 bytes) () 05/21/2023 05:20:21
• 【周末得吃好的】韭菜花炒肉丝+荠菜豆腐羹+油菜花拌卤牛腱+绿豆糕 - lovecat08 - ♀ (3194 bytes) () 05/20/2023 14:29:42
• 来喽!来喽! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 14:30:35
• 暖暖书坛的胃! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 14:31:05
• 谢谢爱猫,每个周末都给上大餐! - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:25:49
• 那里是大餐? - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:26:37
• 家常小菜而已。有时是剩菜重吃呗!不过菜过2天不再吃了,有人1天就不。。。。。。。 - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:28:12
• 我们这里根本看不到荠菜,我要了!还有绿豆糕! - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:27:11
• 中国超市冷冻柜都有卖的,我常化冰后,加肉末,包上海馄炖。 - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:30:07
• 荠菜馄饨最好吃啦,只能买速冻的吃。。。 - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:32:29
• 花花昨天没发稿?快弄点精彩的热坛!来个四舅!(微小说,哈!) - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:34:37
• 再绞绞脑汁?(∩_∩) - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:30:15
• 花花,旧稿多嘛!我最喜欢的是评联续剧,电影。。。。。。 - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:34:32
• 不好意思老拿旧帖啊。。。。明天上一个 - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 18:48:25
• 垂涎千尺。谢谢猫姐分享美食美图。 - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:01:43
• 水儿伶巧,定专厨艺! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 16:14:17
• 【行香子】读史(依晁补之格)和水儿诗友 - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (1516 bytes) () 05/20/2023 09:39:20
• 诗如泉涌! - 花似鹿葱 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 09:41:40
• 哪里~~~跟着水儿,撷取点滴~~~~~~问好花姐! - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 10:04:43
• 仰学山水先生与水儿才女词笔。愿二位常来赐韵。 - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 12:56:49
• 秋兰好!跟了你的《喝火令》和寒苇的《浣溪沙》,因发主帖有限,放下面跟帖里了~~~~~~ - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:09:00
• 苇苇和秋兰都是词中高手。 - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:22:47
• 你们三位都是高手 - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:04:12
• 秋兰油嘴! - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:19:52
• 击鼓鸣冤呀! - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:21:53
• 饶你都可以,快写篇东西回应我的新帖。 - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:25:03
• 蒙冤还要遵命献文,今日何日?现世何世? - renqiulan - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 17:28:36
• 诗美如仙! - lovecat08 - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 14:29:06
• 水儿爱班花姐寒苇等等诸多诗友美如仙~~~~~~ - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:10:59
• 山水先生见过小女子么? - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:21:18
• 尚未曾有幸~~~~~~然诗文如其人,想来自是娟秀优雅也~~~~~ - 山水苍茫 - ♂ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:28:30
• 嘻嘻:) - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:54:13
• 爱班美,才可送出无尽的美食。 - shuier - ♀ (0 bytes) () 05/20/2023 15:24:40