找到cdc的,没找到who的。见内。

回答: 先定义一下“真正的新冠死亡”zhuangqiushui2023-01-05 15:43:14

Cause-of-death classification and definition of deaths

Coronavirus disease deaths are identified using the ICD–10 code U07.1. Deaths are coded to U07.1 when coronavirus disease 2019 or COVID-19 are reported as a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate. These can include laboratory confirmed cases, as well as cases without laboratory confirmation. If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), they can report COVID-19 as “probable” or “presumed” on the death certificate (56). COVID-19 is listed as the underlying cause on the death certificate in 92% of deaths (see Table 1).

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm

 

 

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92%,也不低啊,不是有很多人认为美国是把各种死亡都算在新冠头上吗? -zhuangqiushui- 给 zhuangqiushui 发送悄悄话 zhuangqiushui 的博客首页 (169 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 16:09:25

不知道具体执行情况。但我们郡2022年的数据,新冠死亡是新冠hospitalization的将近3倍。所以大概率是 -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (56 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 16:17:18

这个看怎么解释了,我们这里每天死亡人数大于在ICU的人数,所以我可以说有些人是SKIP了去ICU这一道程序。。直接走了 -zhuangqiushui- 给 zhuangqiushui 发送悄悄话 zhuangqiushui 的博客首页 (358 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 16:25:59

不是ICU,是hospitalization。就算不爱插管,严重时也应该先住院吧?总不能这些新冠死亡都是在家猝死的吧? -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 16:29:36

那就会有两种说法了,一种是非新冠死亡,还有一种就是住院难, -zhuangqiushui- 给 zhuangqiushui 发送悄悄话 zhuangqiushui 的博客首页 (275 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 16:37:10

我们county比较乡下,住院肯定没问题。去年一年总共不到40新冠住院的。跟大部分地方比,应该非常宽松了。再说就算纽约 -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (78 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 17:03:38

那到底是为什么呀?是美国人实在不爱住院吗?宁死不住院? -zhuangqiushui- 给 zhuangqiushui 发送悄悄话 zhuangqiushui 的博客首页 (316 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 17:16:14

所以我怀疑死者测了是新冠阳就算新冠死。车祸什么的都算进去了。至少我们郡的数据有这个嫌疑。不然真不好解释 -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 17:23:42

你也是比较冷静理智的人了,不然不会和我掰扯这么久 -zhuangqiushui- 给 zhuangqiushui 发送悄悄话 zhuangqiushui 的博客首页 (384 bytes) () 01/05/2023 postreply 17:53:54

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