APAD: have no truck with

Meaning: To reject or to have nothing to do with.

 

Background:

   We are all familiar with trucks as carts and road vehicles, but that's not

   what's being referred to in `have no truck with'. This `truck' is the early

   French word `troque', which meant `an exchange; a barter' and came into

   Middle English as `truke'. The first known record of truke is the Vintner's

   Company Charter in the Anglo-Norman text of the Patent Roll of Edward III,

   1364. This relates to a transaction for some wine which was to be done `by

   truke, or by exchange'.

 

   So, to `have truck with' was to barter or do business' with. In the 17th

   century and onward, the meaning of `truck' was extended to include

   `association'/'communication' and `to have truck with' then came to mean

   `commune with'.

 

   `Truck' is now usually only heard in the negative and this usage began in the

   19th century. To `have no truck with' came to be a general term for `have

   nothing to do with'. An example of that is cited in the Journal of the Royal

   Asiatic Society, 1834:

 

     Theoretically an officer should have no truck with thieves.

 

   `Trucking' was also country slang for `courting'/'dallying with' (and no, in

   case you are wondering, it has nothing to do with any similar word beginning

   with `f'). To `have no more truck' meant that a courtship had ceased. An

   example of that usage in print is found in Notes and Queries, 1866:

 

     [In Suffolk] A man who has left off courting a girl, says that he has `no

     more truck along o'har'.

 

   `No truck with' may seem rather antiquated language now, although it is still

   used. Even older is a version that hasn't often been heard since Grandma's

   day - `brook no truck with'. `Brook' in this context means `make use

 

   of/enjoy' and adds emphasis to the standard `have no truck'. The image I have

   of someone who would `brook no truck' is Queen Victoria, in her later and

   more `unamused' years. A truculent woman at that stage by many accounts,

   although `truculent' and `truck' aren't related.

 

   Going back to the original `barter' meaning of truck, this also became

   extended to include the sundry items that were bartered and also small odd

   jobs or errands. The stores that were set up to service the needs of

   itinerant navvies while they were building the UK's canals and railways were

   known as `truck stores' or `tommy shops'. The great rural campaigner William

   Cobbett referred to these in his classic, Rural Rides, 1825:

 

     In the iron country [the Black Country]... the truck or tommy system

     generally prevails.

 

   The navvies' sites were often far from towns and were the only places that

   the workmen could shop. The shops were generally ruinously expensive and

   provided poor quality goods. The workers were often paid in vouchers that

   could only be `trucked' at the workplace shop. That all ended in the UK with

   the passing of the 1887 Truck Act, which made the worst excesses of the truck

   trade illegal. In the USA such shops were known as company stores and are the

   subject of the well-known American song Sixteen Tons:

 

     You load sixteen tons, what do you get?

     Another day older and deeper in debt.

     Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go;

     I owe my soul to the company store.

 

   ...

 

- www.phrases.org.uk [edited]

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My dream of having no truck with driving came true after the kid left for

college. I alerted California DMV, fired the insurer, sent the premium to my

boy, and parked my little Honda in the gagrage. I might need it someday, I still

think, although I have been thriving on train and my ebike for four months.

Every ride reminds me that I'm no longer in the grip of the tyranical democratic

truck shops of the state.

 

In addition, I've since learned to adjust the bike's brakes and flip its front

tire to even out the wear on the tread. I've also learned that the sitting car

battery dies in 40 days and it takes a 1A charger about 22hrs to recharge.

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Is it safe to drive your ebike? -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 07:57:33

You never know the skill level of other drivers~ -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:03:39

No problem from other drivers so far. Most are aware&polite. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:07:00

Feels like they admire and some day may join me :-) -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:09:49

I don’t even feel safe driving a Japanese car:) -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:17:41

Hat off to you 7G! We still have our 22 years old Honda, but -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:11:37

its yearly mileage is far lower than our Ebikes (especially -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:12:44

hubby's ebike, as I don't ride as much in winter :-) -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:13:32

Yes. I keep the Honda as my own insurance against emergency: -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:18:48

it takes one call to AllState to get back on the road :-) -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 08:19:53

cars r made2run, did u lift wheels,disconnected battery &... -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 09:33:30

or inflate the tires&charge battery regularly? -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 09:35:24

You mean tire rotation? Not since I stopped driving. Yes. I -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 09:51:55

have learned to charge the battery regularly. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 09:52:46

1 of the reasons we drive 2 Costco on Hwy1 is 2 遛车 ;-) -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:09:58

My solution is a cheap charger for the battery. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:26:56

lift tires above ground prevent rubber permanent deformation -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:16:39

or run 1s in a while -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:21:15

Thanks for the tip, bro. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:25:22

I have no truck with alarm clocks, -JoyAnna.- 给 JoyAnna. 发送悄悄话 JoyAnna. 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:33:18

as they are instruments of oppression to me -JoyAnna.- 给 JoyAnna. 发送悄悄话 JoyAnna. 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:33:53

just like your Honda to you. -JoyAnna.- 给 JoyAnna. 发送悄悄话 JoyAnna. 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:34:48

I've no beef with 'em but I always wake up or stay awake -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:43:45

before the set alarm. Couldn't help it. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/15/2026 postreply 10:44:20

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