APAD:U can't get from the negotiation table what U can't...

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You can't get from the negotiation table what you can't get from the battlefield

The saying suggests that you need to have a strong position or leverage to achieve desired outcomes in negotiations, potentially implying that force or power is necessary to secure favorable agreements.

The Core Idea:
The saying suggests that if you are not strong enough or don't have enough leverage to win on the "battlefield" (whether literal or figurative, like a business negotiation), you won't be able to achieve your goals at the negotiation table. 

Implications:
Strength and Power: It emphasizes the importance of having a strong position, whether through military might or economic power, to influence negotiations. 

Negotiation as a Result: The saying implies that negotiation is not a starting point but rather a consequence of having already established a position of strength. 
Potential for Conflict: It can be interpreted as a justification for using force or threats to achieve desired outcomes, as it suggests that negotiation is only effective if one has the backing of power. 

Alternative Perspectives:

Diplomacy and Negotiation: Some argue that the negotiating table is where peace and resolution begin, suggesting that diplomacy and compromise are more effective than force. 

Finding Common Ground: Effective negotiation often involves finding common ground and addressing underlying interests rather than relying solely on power dynamics. 

Examples:

Historical Conflicts: Throughout history, countries have used military strength to secure favorable peace treaties or to influence other nations' decisions. 

Business Negotiations: In business, a company with a strong market position or a unique product may have more leverage during negotiations with suppliers or customers. 

Russia-Ukraine war:  Through 3 years up and down, people are seeing the war is close to the end, but the battles seemed even intensified, that doesn't mean either party doesn't want to ceasefire, but to gain more chips from the battelfield that they can bring to the negotiation table.   

Korean war:  The Battle of Triangle Hill, also known as Operation Showdown or the Shangganling Campaign was fought from 14 October to 25 November 1952, after the negotiations at Panmunjom began to deteriorate in September 1952, neither side could be satisfied from the negotiation table, they sought again from the battelfield for solution.

 

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Nature is worse,@least some humans are sane -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 05:47:46

说到底,这世界还是丛林法则,弱肉强食,谁拳头硬谁有理 -永远老李- 给 永远老李 发送悄悄话 (174 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 05:28:28

咦?联合国是丛林里的练嘴望天台吗?or UNfair? -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 05:42:25

UNFORTUNATELY,UNITED NATION IS USELESS -永远老李- 给 永远老李 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 06:12:16

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现在是东欧的冬季,给了乌克兰宝贵的斡旋时间,机不可失,时不再来 -永远老李- 给 永远老李 发送悄悄话 (147 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 06:16:39

“You have no cards.“ :-) -暖冬cool夏- 给 暖冬cool夏 发送悄悄话 暖冬cool夏 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 07:46:46

Ukraine has no card from the very beginning -永远老李- 给 永远老李 发送悄悄话 (109 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 08:01:24

Exactly! 选择性错误,方向性错误,走上不归路。 -暖冬cool夏- 给 暖冬cool夏 发送悄悄话 暖冬cool夏 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 08:32:34

They had but they overplayed their hand. It's a lesson. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 10:41:22

wish I understand, but felt like aCat watching a moving ball -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 10:53:45

They'd betted too heavily on a lefty America. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 11:16:07

His card was withdrawn -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 12:03:31

Yes. Be whatever you want to be, but be strong first. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 08:43:18

Ford should have implemented the 25%energy surcharge until -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 12:01:59

after next week's meeting to remove it -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 12:02:33

Ford felt a little fresh as the game’s on a national level. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 12:57:41

He is uplifted, President request 2meet provincial governor -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:15:52

So he's won the battle. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:22:58

He won nothing but anther meeting next week -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:29:53

Trump won temporary spare of 25% surcharge -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:30:47

and he's already asking who'd turned to Canadian electricity -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:38:20

in the first place. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 13:39:38

弱肉强食。The law of jungle. Luckily,China is much stronger than -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 08:53:52

decades ago~ -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 08:54:08

Taiwan is watching Ukraine situation closely -永远老李- 给 永远老李 发送悄悄话 (68 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 09:20:30

APAD:Prosperity makes friends, and adversity tries them. -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 15:20:25

blame injustice and perform injustice in the meantime -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 12:05:55

No. It‘s in reality. If China were still weak,we wud suffer~ -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/14/2025 postreply 14:39:49

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