APAD: Nasty, brutish and short

Meaning:

   This is a 17th century phrase describing the life of mankind when in a state

   of war.

 

Background:

   `Nasty, brutish and short' is a quotation from Thomas Hobbes' book Leviathan,

   1651 - not a firm of particularly unpleasant lawyers as some wags have

   suggested.

 

   The fuller quotation of this phrase is even less appealing - "solitary, poor,

   nasty, brutish, and short". Hobbes described the natural state of mankind

   (the state pertaining before a central government is formed) as a "warre of

   every man against every man".

   ...

   

   In 1998, the UK comedienne Jo Brand used "nasty, brutish and short" to

   describe the diminutive, right-wing comedian Jim Davidson, who supported

   Margaret Thatcher through an era when virtually all other British comedians

   didn't.

 

- www.phrases.org.uk [edited]

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My friend Bill used to work for a Taiwanese shop here in the Bay Area. They paid

well but the managers acted like Chinese officials and warlords. Bill didn't

come to America to live again under that kind of hierachy. He might have pushed

his boss too hard and at one point, the latter even hinted physical violence.

His career at that company was nasty, brutish, and short.

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poor Bill, hopeHe isOk now. Such a drak image byTH, where's -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 09:34:42

人之初性本善? hmm ... -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 09:38:05

Thanks! Bill's fine and he was not innocent :-) -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 11:01:27

史剧里法家说辞,人性本恶并非环境让人变恶,人的贪婪本性塑造环境,必须通过法去制约人性,故,人的这些恶性并非战争的结果 -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (243 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 11:22:14

法家儒家都不如移花正确! -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 11:30:53

对,本恶本善都是很悲观或太乐观的看法。还觉得本恶可能对非人类动物更适用, 但 -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (368 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 11:38:35

非人类动物的恶是人类的观点,动物本身来是说不过是可食不可食的区别,本能行为 -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/03/2024 postreply 09:54:51

同意。但觉得本能也可能被环境影响:在食物多不用竞争的地方,动物彼此也会温和友好一些吧 ;-) -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/03/2024 postreply 10:57:19

How about Nvidia’s work environment? -妖妖灵- 给 妖妖灵 发送悄悄话 妖妖灵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 12:11:15

Don't know anyone working there. Sorry. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 12:18:57

The good thing is that it is short:)) -暖冬cool夏- 给 暖冬cool夏 发送悄悄话 暖冬cool夏 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 13:19:10

He whined a lot. I don't think it was even half that bad:-)) -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 06/02/2024 postreply 14:18:27

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