请达人们再帮我看看我的最新版的法庭自辩陈述,请特别关注我的英文部分, 发现Google translate 有时的翻译并

并不好.

 

同时也谢谢所有之前给我意见的网亲们,无论你们的意见我是否同意,我相信你们都是为我好,所以鞠躬感谢。当然,集思广益之后,最后的主意还是要我自己拿,请大家谅解我如果和你的意见不同。

 

尊敬的法官:

首先,请允许我先快速简单介绍一下我自己,我是一位受过良好高等教育的(某行业的)professional,  作为一个**(我的title),受雇于本地一家有名的大机构现已超过xx 年。

 

Your honour,

First of all, please allow me to quickly introduce myself.    I am a well-educated **** (my professional field) professional.      I have been employed by a well-known large local organization as a **** for more than xx years now.

 

2,由于我是移民,英语不是我的母语,我的职业和生活中都很少需要用英语交流,所以虽然我已在本地生活了**年,我对loiter 和loitering 的理解只能来自有名的英语字典和维基百科,New Oxford America Dictionary  和Oxford Language 对loiter 的解释是 stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose.     维基百科对loitering 的解释是,Loitering is the act of standing or waiting around idly without purpose in some public places.

 

Since I am an immigrant, English is not my native language.  And I rarely need to communicate in English in my career and  daily life, Therefore, although I have lived in here for ** years, my understanding of loiter and loitering can only come from famous English dictionaries and Wikipedia. The New Oxford America Dictionary and Oxford Language explain loiter as stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose. Wikipedia explains loitering as, Loitering is the act of standing or waiting around idly without purpose in some public places.

 

   3,   在罚单上所引用的市政交通附例中,没有对loiter 和loitering 有特殊的定义,故我认为字典和维基百科对loiter 和loitering 的定义适用于罚单所引用的市政交通附例。在市政交通附例中,只有sec#* sub.sec# * 明确写着没有人可以在公交车上或公交所属地loiter.  整个附例中没有任何一个部分写在你想乘坐的公交车到来时,你必须马上乘坐你想要乘坐的公交车,这就是说,如果一个人计划要搭公交但在候车厅里错过几趟他/她想乘搭的车并没有违反市政交通附例关于对loitering 的规定

 

In the **** (本市名)Municipal Transportation Bylaw cited in the ticket, there is no specific definition of loiter and loitering, so I think the dictionaries and Wikipedia’s definitions of loiter and loitering apply to the Bylaw cited in the ticket.    In the Bylaw, only sec#* sub.sec#* explicitly states that No person shall loiter on any transit vehicle or transit property.     There is no any other section in the entire bylaw states that you must take the transit vehicle you want to take immediately when the vehicle you want to take arrives, which means that if a person plans to take the transit vehicle but misses several transit vehicles he/she wants to take on the transit property , it does not violate the Municipal Transportation Bylaw's regulations regarding to the loitering.

 

4,  虽然我确实在候车厅里有大约一个多小时,但我是有计划要乘车去某地的,尽管我想乘的车也确实有来过几趟,而我没有乘坐那些车,这一点,可以通过我曾告诉过peace officers 我想去哪里来证明

   

Although I was in the waiting shelter on the train station platform for about an hour, I did had a plan to go to ***Station by the train,  and although the train I wanted to take did come several times, I did not take any of them, which can be proved by the fact that I had told the peace officers where I wanted to go when they asked me. 

 

终上所述,我不认为我有违反市政交通附例中对loitering 的规定。但是,如果您认为我对loiter and loitering 的理解有误,您认为我的行为确实属于loitering, 我请求您考虑到我是初犯,而且是因为不懂loitering 的明确定义而引起的,给予从轻处判。谢谢

 

In conclusion, I do not think I have violated the loitering regulations according to the Municipal Traffic Bylaw.

However, if you think that my understanding of loiter and loitering is wrong and you think that my act  indeed was loitering, I plead you to consider the fact that I am a first-time offender and that it was caused by me not understanding the clear meaning of loitering,   So to give me a lighter sentence. Thank you very much 

 

 

如果法官问我为什么来了几趟车都不上,我打算这样回答

 

那天晚上我本是计划乘公交车去某地的,所以才在候车厅里等车,在等车期间,我顺带用iPad pro上网,当时发现我喜欢上的一个网上论坛的成员们纷纷在帖 他们本人的照片,  这个论坛的成员来自世界各地,很多人都是名校包括著名的藤校毕业的成功的职场精英,我对他们非常仰慕,加上我天性好奇心很强, 一直很想知道他们都长什么样,但以前始终没有机会见到他们的真人照片,所以当终于有机会能看到他们的真人照片时,我自然就不想错过这个机会, 于是就留在候车厅里看他们帖照片。这里有几点我想解释一下,第一,我的iPad pro 没有data plan, 我上网是用车站旁边的快餐店***的Wifi 的,如果我上了公交车,我就无法上网了。 第二, 那个论坛的成员们有个习惯,他们通常都不会把自己本人的照片贴在论坛上很长时间,多数人都是只帖几分钟有些甚至几秒后就把照片删了,所以我担心如果我上了车的话,肯定就会错过不少人的照片。 

 

i was planning to take the train to go to *** Station that night,   so I was waiting for the train in the waiting shelter.  While waiting for the train, I used my iPad pro to surf the Internet. At that time, I found that the members of an online forum I liked were posting their own photos. The members of this forum are from all over the world. Many of them are very successful and intelligent elites who graduated from famous universities , including famous Ivy League. I admire them very much.  And plus , I am a very curious person by nature. I always wanted to know what those members looked like, but I never had the opportunity to see their real photos before. So when I finally had the opportunity to see their real photos, I naturally didn’t want to miss this opportunity, so I stayed in the shelter to watch them posting photos.

 

There are a few points I want to explain here.

 

First, my iPad pro does not have a data plan. So I had to use the Wifi of the fast food restaurant next to the station to surf the Internet. So I would not be able to surf the Internet if I took the train.   Secondly, the members of that forum have a habit. They usually don’t post their own photos on the forum for very long,  Most people only post for a few minutes, and some even just a few seconds and then they delete the photos.  So I was afraid that I would definitely miss a lot of people’s photos if I took the train.   

 

如果有问到安全问题

 

我在本市居住**年,感觉本地治安一直很好,虽然近几年也时有听新闻说这几年治安变差,但我经常一个人在半夜有时甚至凌晨2,3 ,4 点在大街上走,从来没有发生什么问题, 所以一直不害怕深夜独行,尽管我也经常在很多地方见到有不少homeless, 记得我刚移民来本市时,还曾问过本地人他们是否害怕那些homeless. 他们说,不怕,因为那些homeless 多数都不会bother you,  而以我以后我多年的经历发现,那些本地人说的对,那些homeless 确实一般不会bother you,  所以我对他们的态度是,如果能避免近距离接触就尽量避免,但如果在有些时候不能避免,只要没有明显的安全威胁,其实也不必过于紧张,例如像那晚,非常冷,如果不在候车厅里,不戴手套的话,手会立刻冻僵, 而当时同在候车厅的另一个女子,虽然她看上去有点像homeless,  但是她非常瘦弱,体型大概只有我的一半, 我感觉不到会有任何安全威胁,所以一点都没感到害怕和她那么近距离地在一起

 

I have lived in this city for ** years, and I feel that the local security has always been very good. Although I have heard news reports that the security has deteriorated in recent years, I often walk alone on the street in the middle of the night, sometimes even at 2, 3, or 4 am in the morning, and I have never had any problems. So I have never been afraid of walking alone late at night, although I often see many homeless people in many places. I remember when I first immigrated to this city, I asked some local people if they were afraid of those homeless people. They said no, because most of homeless people would not bother you. And with my many years of experience afterwards, I found that those local people I asked before were right. Those homelss generally would not bother you. So my view towards homeless is to avoid close contact as much as possible if you can, but if you can't avoid at some times, as long as there is no obvious safety threat, you don't have to be too nervous. For example, that night, it was very cold. If you were not in the shelter and didn’t wear gloves, your hands would freeze immediately. And although the other woman inside of the shelter I was in at that time looked like a homeless, she was very thin and looked like very weak,   and her body size is probably only about half of my size,  so I didn't feel any safety threat,  so I wasn't scared at all to be so close to her.

所有跟帖: 

我觉得太罗嗦了。法坛柠檬已经给你提供了样本,你照着那个思路就可以了。让你陈述时简单明了地解释一下就可以了 -BuckLake- 给 BuckLake 发送悄悄话 BuckLake 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:30:24

你一方面说你是某个领域的professional,而且已经在某个机构工作了很多年,一方面又说你的工作性质不需要与人打交道 -BuckLake- 给 BuckLake 发送悄悄话 BuckLake 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:32:01

想不出来什么样的专业工作不需要与人英语交流。不管是analysist还是programmer, 至少还是需要需要向别人解 -BuckLake- 给 BuckLake 发送悄悄话 BuckLake 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:34:08

解释你的结果,也是要用到英语的 -BuckLake- 给 BuckLake 发送悄悄话 BuckLake 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:35:26

是用英语,但用的不多 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:39:17

你在法庭上可以用英语陈述, 英语水平足够了。 根本没必要强调自己的英语水平问题。 -浅水鱼- 给 浅水鱼 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:47:44

我认为有必要,因为在此之前,我确实不懂Loitering 的意思 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:50:33

觉得你根本不用去纠结loitering的定义。 就说你是有正当职业的,历史清白的人。当时由于特殊原因蹭WiFi耽误了上车 -浅水鱼- 给 浅水鱼 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:56:34

不重要,不知法懂法而犯法是你自己的问题,不能作为理由 -oops_yz- 给 oops_yz 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:57:39

你确实有目的(乘车),但具体停留多久算违例,还是协警说了算。不是说有目的就可以洗清“逗留”之过。比如去饭店吃饭, -陈默- 给 陈默 发送悄悄话 陈默 的博客首页 (560 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:22:49

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:26:15

觉得太长了, 早上为你找到这个美国的Loitering law -gzlady- 给 gzlady 发送悄悄话 gzlady 的博客首页 (401 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:53:44

谢谢,那个帖子我看过了 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:55:00

哇,准备充分,点赞。 -几颗汗滴- 给 几颗汗滴 发送悄悄话 (48 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:30:59

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:39:30

服你了, 法坛律师已经免费帮你写好了. 简洁明了 -weihua2021- 给 weihua2021 发送悄悄话 (844 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:31:51

这个简单,明确 -longnv- 给 longnv 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:43:01

我不同意她的,罚单上根本没提卖淫贩毒,我说我不是妓女等简直就是无的放矢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:44:42

去掉 I was not a prostitute, I didn't peddle drugs 只讲loitering -7妙记忆- 给 7妙记忆 发送悄悄话 7妙记忆 的博客首页 (126 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:59:12

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:08:08

1.)祝你好运!2.)如果是我只留下文字的1/4。越精简越好!法官没有那么多时间搞你这样的案子。我的二分钱 -一脸的美人痣- 给 一脸的美人痣 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:33:05

谢谢,这些文字看着长,但一说出来,只有几分钟 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:45:34

他们不会给你陈述那么长的时间。不过,有备无患。不要太紧张!你会没事的:) -一脸的美人痣- 给 一脸的美人痣 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:56:07

照我看来只有第一段是可用的。 -灵动的双子- 给 灵动的双子 发送悄悄话 灵动的双子 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:35:34

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:45:46

让无忧给润润色 -箕谷垂钓紫气东来- 给 箕谷垂钓紫气东来 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:36:50

LOL -几颗汗滴- 给 几颗汗滴 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:37:24

无忧肯定会出来指点的,好不容易等到用到他专业的机会了 -箕谷垂钓紫气东来- 给 箕谷垂钓紫气东来 发送悄悄话 (167 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:43:41

不兴这样坑人。 -LexusOnly- 给 LexusOnly 发送悄悄话 LexusOnly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:41:04

无扰家真有律师,天仙是律师,无扰侄儿是律师学校毕业的 -npoaks03橡树- 给 npoaks03橡树 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:44:02

据他说侄子年薪50万 -箕谷垂钓紫气东来- 给 箕谷垂钓紫气东来 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:45:50

法坦柠檬律师帮你写的思路清晰、简明扼要。你这个忒啰嗦 -shuilifang- 给 shuilifang 发送悄悄话 shuilifang 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:39:06

谢谢,我那些一说出来也没几分钟 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:51:25

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:46:58

好复杂 -LexusOnly- 给 LexusOnly 发送悄悄话 LexusOnly 的博客首页 (273 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:40:32

久待车站就被当站街女? 这个好像是有点故意歧视 -不聊天- 给 不聊天 发送悄悄话 不聊天 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:43:35

大家拿的法规 -LexusOnly- 给 LexusOnly 发送悄悄话 LexusOnly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:46:26

注意,罚单上并没有写我不配合警察,所以我认为没必要解释为什么不配合,除非法官问,我会再解释 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:49:34

这是干嘛? 没事不能在公车站逗留? 啥是PEACE OFFICER? 贴主因为逗留公车站被当是站街女? 被罚款了? -不聊天- 给 不聊天 发送悄悄话 不聊天 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:40:40

抱歉,现在没时间给你详细解释,你可以搜下我最近的帖子 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:52:54

要不申请个翻译吧 -oops_yz- 给 oops_yz 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:44:38

到时看情况再说,我认为如果能我自己说的,最好还是自己说,因为经历过有些翻译的水平并不好 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:54:09

我不觉得你有机会读完这一篇啊。法官可能很快打断你的。你最好简化成几个重点句,不要拉扯无关紧要的内容。 -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:44:56

赞同这点,写文章和听人说要区分,三句不切关键点别人就不想听了 -易路向北- 给 易路向北 发送悄悄话 易路向北 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:47:44

你把自己放在法官的位置,想想法官有没有耐心听你这长篇累牍。劝你把所有修饰词去掉,把自我评判的词去掉,只说为什么逗留。 -榆树嘉- 给 榆树嘉 发送悄悄话 (622 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:45:55

这个好 -Jessy99- 给 Jessy99 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:50:59

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:10:36

大姨,真不用写那么长篇大论的。根据我多次上庭的经验,你只需要承认一下自己的过失,应该就会被免了罚金。不清楚需不需要付堂费 -瓷.宝宝- 给 瓷.宝宝 发送悄悄话 (477 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:50:08

法官当天要应对很多案例,没时间听长篇大论!多次上庭,宝宝威武 -npoaks03橡树- 给 npoaks03橡树 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:53:32

好几次,我准备充足,又拍照和打印,还提前准备好了辩论陈词。我遇到经验是,根本都用不上,结果几乎是一样的,免罪、交少量的钱 -瓷.宝宝- 给 瓷.宝宝 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:56:42

基本就是这样,免罪,罚款打折,如果那样大姨最好赶紧认了 -易路向北- 给 易路向北 发送悄悄话 易路向北 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:00:28

咱曾经是个血性男儿。有人在高速上超我的车,闪我的灯,我必定追上。有次,一个家伙超我,还给了我一个中指,我立刻追上,车子紧 -瓷.宝宝- 给 瓷.宝宝 发送悄悄话 (297 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:04:15

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:00:11

我觉得你这么写帮助自己厘清思路,是好事;但自辨最好更简洁,言多必失。而且,要剔除你文字里的“等级观念”,太明显了。 -陈默- 给 陈默 发送悄悄话 陈默 的博客首页 (1319 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:53:36

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:01:02

太长了。这种misdemeanor法庭,我因为traffic ticket去过几次,一上午法官要处理几十个案件,每次我的 -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (145 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:53:59

对,就是“过堂”,不是听证会,不会给很多时间的。简洁扼要为好。 -陈默- 给 陈默 发送悄悄话 陈默 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:57:44

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:01:26

多用短句。简单逐点说明你有逗留的理由(要乘车离开),延误的原因(使用Wi-Fi在交流),和城管的误会。 -Duckmaster- 给 Duckmaster 发送悄悄话 Duckmaster 的博客首页 (69 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 15:57:50

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:01:48

你还是要当秋菊,几个坦几十个人帮你,你非要一条道走到黑。 -外乡人- 给 外乡人 发送悄悄话 外乡人 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:03:01

大衣,你可真犟啊。保重,完了后回来汇报下。 -MrsKwok- 给 MrsKwok 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:06:39

多一下嘴,你始终没有明白你的行为就是loitering。 -往事_如烟- 给 往事_如烟 发送悄悄话 往事_如烟 的博客首页 (948 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:07:08

谢谢 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:09:42

+1 -烹小闲- 给 烹小闲 发送悄悄话 烹小闲 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:16:14

这类小案件法官根本不可能给你太多时间去表述。一个天使般的天真无暇的微笑和自信优雅的体态比很多冗长的叙述更让法官给免罪! -钟馗抓鬼- 给 钟馗抓鬼 发送悄悄话 钟馗抓鬼 的博客首页 (1075 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:16:49

谢谢,好希望你在俺这嘎达 -Dayi- 给 Dayi 发送悄悄话 Dayi 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:23:38

你是助燃剂,不是灭火剂 -往事_如烟- 给 往事_如烟 发送悄悄话 往事_如烟 的博客首页 (174 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:24:20

我一辈子都在帮助类似大义这样需要帮助的社会民众。 -钟馗抓鬼- 给 钟馗抓鬼 发送悄悄话 钟馗抓鬼 的博客首页 (432 bytes) () 08/05/2024 postreply 16:34:29

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