APAD: The third degree

Meaning:

   Close interrogation.

   

Background:

   The classification of the qualities of objects by degree - heat and cold,

   moisture and dryness etc. - was commonplace in the middle ages. Henry Lyte's

   translation of Dodoens' Niewe herball or historie of plantes, 1578 includes a

   description of rue:

     "Rue is hoate and dry in the thirde degree."

     

   Shakespeare went on to apply the degree classification to drink, in Twelfth

   Night, 1602:

     "For he s in the third degree of drinke: hee's drown'd: go looke after him."

     

   The present meaning involves more than classification though. `The third

   degree' is well-known to all US crime-fiction enthusiasts as `an intensive,

   possibly brutal, interrogation'.

   

   In Masonic lodges there are three degrees of membership; the first is called

   Entered Apprentice, the second Fellowcraft, and the third is master mason.

   When a candidate receives the third degree in a Masonic lodge, he is

   subjected to some activities that involve an interrogation and it is more

   physically challenging than the first two degrees. It is this interrogation

   that was the source of the name of the US police force's interrogation

   technique. That is referred to in an 1900 edition of Everybody's Magazine:

     "From time to time a prisoner... claims to have had the Third Degree

     administered to him."

     

- www.phrases.org.uk [edited]

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I had a brush with the third degree defending my thesis in grad school when a

faculty member, a well-known professor from a rival city, questioned a key

theorem I set out to prove. It was his area and he was on the ball with the

holes in my argument. I could have been sent back for another term to make

everything bullet-proof had not one of my advisors weighed in and saved the day.

Of course, afterwards, I felt like a fake but Mike, my other advisor, assured me

that it was how research was done--there was always going to be future work--and

I was ready.

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Learned&Understood U perfectly! Brushed w/ 3rd degree myself -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 09:51:45

in thesis defense unfairly. Worse as I was w/ child &haven't -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 09:55:24

eaten much 4 weeks (other Profs all supported me & I passed -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (192 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 09:58:31

You led a pre-meditated hunger strike :-) -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:38:59

In some professions, facing the “third degree” is -JoyAnna.- 给 JoyAnna. 发送悄悄话 JoyAnna. 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 12:26:28

unavoidable. We get used to it over time. : D -JoyAnna.- 给 JoyAnna. 发送悄悄话 JoyAnna. 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 12:27:31

Right. It ain't all bad. You win or you learn. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:39:43

Learned, know 3rd degree burn, 3rd degree murder b4. -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:03:15

1st, 3rd degree, which more is more severe? -移花接木- 给 移花接木 发送悄悄话 移花接木 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:04:27

(haha, U must be joking ;-) -最西边的岛上- 给 最西边的岛上 发送悄悄话 最西边的岛上 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:15:37

Murder? 1st I think, since it's pre-conceived and planned. -7grizzly- 给 7grizzly 发送悄悄话 7grizzly 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2026 postreply 14:40:35

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