O爸妈的挑战"拿出比Obamacare更好的plan,我自己废除它"。请各位传粉请发表见解

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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/06/obama-dares-republicans-give-me-better-health-plan-and-i-will-publicly-support-repeaking-on-obamacare.html

Obama dares Republicans: Give me better health plan and 'I will publicly support repealing Obamacare'

     
     
     
     
     
     
The President in an interview with Vox’s Ezra Klein and Sarah Kliff to discuss the Affordable Care Act.
Source: Whitehouse.gov
The President in an interview with Vox’s Ezra Klein and Sarah Kliff to discuss the Affordable Care Act.

Put up or shut up.

President Barack Obama on Friday told Republicans they should be willing to present a replacement plan for Obamacare before they vote to repeal it.

And Obama also said he'd be willing to support killing his own landmark health-care law — which has expanded insurance coverage to 20 million Americans — if the GOP offers an improvement.

 

"I am saying to every Republican right now, if you can in fact put a plan together that is demonstrably better than what is Obamacare, I will publicly support repealing Obamacare" and replacing it with the GOP's plan, Obama told Vox during a live-streamed interview from Blair House in Washington.

"But I want to see it first."

The president defended his effort to provide health coverage to millions of uninsured people.

"If we had a better way to do this, we would have done it," he said, "because I knew I would be judged on how well it worked."

Obama noted that Republicans "have adamantly said they can do it better."

But he said if that's the case, then they should put their cards on the table and reveal the plan before they repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Congress earlier this week began taking steps toward repealing Obamacare, but neither Republican leaders in Congress nor President-elect Donald Trump has put forward a replacement proposal.

"If they're so convinced that they're going to be able to do it better, why is it they're trying to repeal this so quick?" Obama asked. "What is it they're afraid of?"

"Why wouldn't they be eager to say, 'Here is our plan?'"

Also Friday, Obama had an article entitled "Repealing the ACA without a Replacement — The Risks to American Health Care," published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Obama told Vox editors Ezra Klein and Sarah Kliff that he is getting letters every day from people who are worried that their ability to pay for their own health care or that of loved ones will be taken away if the ACA is repealed.

The president said if a Republican-crafted replacement plan ""works, I'm for it. If it's something that can cover all Americans, makes sure if they have pre-existing conditions they can still get coverage, keeps prescription drugs afford, and encourages preventative measures."

"It it actually works, I will be the first one to say great," Obama said.

But he added, "I suspect that will not happen."

Obama said he believes that is the case because of the expense of health care, which many people are not able to afford without some kind of subsidy to lower their costs.

The ACA offers such subsidies in the form of tax credits to more than 10 million people who buy individual health insurance from government-run Obamacare exchanges. The law also provides funding to states to expand their Medicaid programs to offer coverage to millions of poor people who previously were not eligible for it.

Obamacare also mandates that most Americans have some form of insurance coverage or be subject to a tax penalty.

GOP leaders have talked about removing the subsidies altogether or lessening the total amount spent on them, and have discussed repealing the coverage mandate.

Insurers worry that if people are not compelled to have coverage and don't get help paying for it, the insurers' bottom lines will suffer because their customer pools will skew heavily toward sick people who need insurance rather than healthier people who use fewer medical benefits.

Health-care experts have said that up to 30 million people could lose coverage if the ACA is repealed without a replacement. Experts also have said that if the GOP crafts a replacement, millions will still lose coverage, although less than one 30-million doomsday scenario.

Click here to link to the Vox stream.

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这里的都恨Obamacare对吧?因为你的保险涨了,但2千万人有了医保 -味苦- 给 味苦 发送悄悄话 味苦 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:00:32

低收入不应该是政府管吗?为什么要转嫁他人? -郁金香花园- 给 郁金香花园 发送悄悄话 郁金香花园 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:02:36

今年涨了将近翻倍 新年账单来了差点摔个大跟头 08的医保吃不消,我还打电话问以为搞错了! -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:11:55

Time for a change! -Crystaldowns- 给 Crystaldowns 发送悄悄话 Crystaldowns 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:16:38

不知道啥样的人会叫好 -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:17:31

就是我说的working poor啊,可是他们还是买不起啊,所以只能交penalty -Crystaldowns- 给 Crystaldowns 发送悄悄话 Crystaldowns 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:17:24

具体我也不了解,这100多是最基本的? -Crystaldowns- 给 Crystaldowns 发送悄悄话 Crystaldowns 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:20:49

听说o8 care deductible 是六千 -abalawo- 给 abalawo 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:22:21

Premium越来越高 同样的plan 今年将近翻倍 -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:23:05

deductible 这么高,那还有什么意义呢?这部分人本来就是没钱的人居多 -夏茗- 给 夏茗 发送悄悄话 夏茗 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:30:33

我不恨,保险没涨, 今早一听有人说 要废 08care,马上担心万一 做不到65 -遥遥- 给 遥遥 发送悄悄话 遥遥 的博客首页 (23 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:30:50

肯定会,先下台再说。。 -拓跋丝瓜- 给 拓跋丝瓜 发送悄悄话 拓跋丝瓜 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:00:41

这是选举后我读到的最有意思的文章。 -Morning3evening4- 给 Morning3evening4 发送悄悄话 Morning3evening4 的博客首页 (192 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:05:28

CO:根源在美国的医疗太贵。 -夏茗- 给 夏茗 发送悄悄话 夏茗 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:13:43

不知道医疗机构在降低成本上有没有什么好的办法,昨天在微信上看到,MD Anderson 宣布裁员5%,近千人呢,主要是医疗行政管 -一笑拉- 给 一笑拉 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:21:49

感觉医疗的收费(贵族级的)跟民众的实际收入(美国的平均收入)很不相符、很脱节 -夏茗- 给 夏茗 发送悄悄话 夏茗 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:25:55

没那么贵了,自费比有保险的便宜10倍。 -Beenthereyes- 给 Beenthereyes 发送悄悄话 Beenthereyes 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:30:07

是。不是税里面出,就是有医保的补贴没有的。 -Morning3evening4- 给 Morning3evening4 发送悄悄话 Morning3evening4 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:15:10

我下个礼拜作。:(。 -Morning3evening4- 给 Morning3evening4 发送悄悄话 Morning3evening4 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:17:41

洛杉矶有老中登广告很便宜好像全身CTcash $280 -lucy2008liu- 给 lucy2008liu 发送悄悄话 lucy2008liu 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:23:23

我以前看那世界日报广告版 -lucy2008liu- 给 lucy2008liu 发送悄悄话 lucy2008liu 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:27:15

要全身体检回国一条龙服务 又便宜又快服务周到,国内很多医院有这项服务几千人民币不得了了。血检妇科乳房检这边免费做,其它回国做 -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:27:33

回国做的话也许免费 同学其中有当院长的 -lucy2008liu- 给 lucy2008liu 发送悄悄话 lucy2008liu 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:30:03

不去麻烦别人了,我认识的大多医院里做的 干嘛还要送礼不如自己付账单 -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:31:59

几百块美金能搞定的事去欠欠不完的人情债 不干 -风清云淡2014- 给 风清云淡2014 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:42:45

还有保公司赚的太多啦 -lucy2008liu- 给 lucy2008liu 发送悄悄话 lucy2008liu 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:17:39

我有保险看医生一次要交110块钱左右no copy。但现金看老中医生50块钱就够了。以前的医疗保险只要copy2十几块钱就可以, -lucy2008liu- 给 lucy2008liu 发送悄悄话 lucy2008liu 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:20:21

我觉得还有就是这笔钱应该大部分让富人出,而不是中产出。 -seattleWA- 给 seattleWA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:18:18

还有好办法是像欧洲加拿大一样加税, 全国都有 med care~不用买保险 -遥遥- 给 遥遥 发送悄悄话 遥遥 的博客首页 (36 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:33:22

我支持08care,让想买保险的人都可以买。但强迫人买、而很多医院、医生又不接受08care,这就有问题了。 -念溪- 给 念溪 发送悄悄话 念溪 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:24:30

但是强迫人买是08care最基本最中坚的部分。 -vest2005- 给 vest2005 发送悄悄话 vest2005 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:28:20

不强拍人卖,那低收入的保险费谁出呀。。。 -pichawxc- 给 pichawxc 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:31:30

废掉就已经更好了:) --百科-- 给 -百科- 发送悄悄话 -百科- 的博客首页 (92 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:27:05

应该把O爸妈care的保费和其它原来就有的保险的保费分开来讨论. -StopBy- 给 StopBy 发送悄悄话 (255 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:30:55

今年我们的保费并没有涨。Obamacare取消对我们也没影响。就等着看看取消的结果。 -iBear- 给 iBear 发送悄悄话 iBear 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2017 postreply 10:58:39

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