贴一篇关于中国人口问题的文章

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46558562

China birth rate: Mothers, your country needs you!

A woman at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Hong KongImage copyrightVICTOR FRAILE RODRIGUEZ
Image captionChina is now trying hard to encourage women to have more children

When China ended its one-child policy three years ago, there was hope couples would have a second child to help slow the pace of an ageing society. But the move isn't working, reports London-based China analyst Yuwen Wu.

The declining birth rate is now one of the most talked-about topics across China - and there's a real sense of crisis.

After decades spent trying to curb the population, state propaganda slogans now exhort couples to "Have children for the country", prompting criticism on social media that government policy is intrusive and insensitive.

Measures now being discussed range from extending maternity leave to encouraging people to have a second child with straight cash incentives or tax breaks. Some are even calling for limits on the number of children to be abandoned altogether.

Aimed at curbing population growth, China's one-child rule was introduced in 1979, a year after economic reforms. The policy was strictly enforced for most people. Those caught violating the policy could be fined, lose their jobs or face forced abortions and sterilisation.

But the fertility rate had already gone into steep decline a decade earlier.

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For years China benefited from demographic dividends - its massive population (almost a fifth of the world's) provided plenty of manpower - and manageable numbers of very young and old people - to fuel the country's rapid economic rise.

Now all that is disappearing, fast.

In order for China to continue its economic development and support its aged, the population needs to grow rather than decline.

The ending of the one-child policy in 2015 was meant to boost this, but the data suggests the opposite - despite the freedom to do so now, young people don't seem to want more children.

How big a problem is the low birth rate?

According to China's National Statistics Bureau, there were 17.86m births in 2016, and the Chinese population grew by 1.31 million, with a rate of 12.95 births per 1,000 people, the fastest since 2001.

But in 2017, which should have seen the full effect of the two-child policy, there were 17,230,000 births, a decrease of 630,000 compared with 2016; the birth rate stood at 12.43 per 1,000, down 0.52% from 2016.

This is below even the most pessimistic forecast before the new policy was introduced.

Predictions for the future look even bleaker:

  • The birth rate will continue to decline from 2018 onwards
  • In the next 10 years, the number of Chinese women aged 23-30 will decrease by 40%, a huge drop in this child-bearing age group
  • In 10 years' time, there will only be about 8 million births per year

Not surprisingly, the looming crisis has got everyone talking.

On 6 August, the Communist Party's official newspaper People's Daily devoted a whole page to the issue, including an op-ed entitled "Having children is a family matter but also a national matter".

The editorial warned that the state needed new policies to deal with the impact of the low birth rate on the economy. This prompted much coverage and debate in the media.

Young boys waves Chinese flags in front of the Tiananmen Gate on October 25, 2018Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image captionA Chinese state media outlet called having children a "national matter"

One article in Xinhua Daily - by two scholars from Nanjing University - sparked an outcry. They suggested a birth fund be set up, to which everybody below the age of 40 contribute. If a couple were to have a second child, they could withdraw money from the fund; if not, they would have to wait until retirement.

"Fined whether one has a child or not? - please stop targeting people's wallets," was just one of the articles in response to the idea, which has been labelled inconsiderate, unfair and unnecessary.

Some urged the state to address the root cause of why young people don't want more children and try to lower the cost of raising a child, rather than penalising people financially.

Why so urgent now?

China is fast becoming an ageing society.

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As well as the birth rate falling, people now live longer - life expectancy was 66 when the one-child policy was introduced, and it is now about 76. This will put great strain on China's economy in the decades to come.

According to the National Bureau of Statistics, the number of people aged 15-64 topped 1 billion in 2013, but has been declining steadily since and will continue to do so.

At the same time, the number of old people is growing. In 2017, China's total population stood at 1.39 billion - including 158 million people aged 65 and over, constituting 11.4% of the population.

That's more than one and half times the UN's definition of an ageing society (when 7% of the population are 65+). The UN's 2017 Revision of World Population Prospects forecasts that 17.1% of the Chinese population will be over 65 by 2030.

This trend entails that old people are supported by fewer and fewer people of working age. According to an article by Ning Yi published on ifengweekly, there were 3.16 young people for each old person in 2011; by 2016, the age dependency ratio was down to 2.8. It is predicted that by 2050, it will be just 1.3.

As in other countries with similar age ratio projections, this has huge implications for the economy, for paying pensions and for meeting elderly care needs.

Why aren't people having more children?

Many young people in China who grew up during the three decades of strict family planning and break-neck economic development have a different mindset from their parents.

They are used to being the centre of attention and enjoying much better material wealth and personal freedom.

They are also marrying late (if at all), having children late (if at all), and focusing more on their own careers and happiness, a trend not confined to China.

White-collars workers walk to their lunch break in Pudong Luziajui business district in Shanghai, China,Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image captionMore young people in China today no longer consider children to be their main priority

When they contemplate starting a family, one big concern is whether they can afford it.

Surveys show that on average, raising a child in a city can cost more than half of a Chinese family's income. Childcare places are always oversubscribed, so many have to rely on grandparents for help. And then there's the mortgage and other burdens on the family budget.

In other words, to have one child is a struggle; to have another needs even more resources and support.

None of the young people I talked to recently in China wanted a second child.

"Our generation has a tremendous burden on our shoulders," one woman, who did not want to be named for this article, told me. "Our ageing parents, our young children, our own careers. These combined together can easily crush us."

The woman, who is in her 30s, already has a five-year-old son, but she and her husband have decided not to provide him with a sibling. Lack of childcare is a big reason.

"So what often happens is we hire nannies to look after the baby, and ask our parents to keep an eye on the nanny."

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How the one-child policy changed

Quadruplet babies born on July 7 in a hospital on September 22, 2016Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image captionChina is finding it hard to encourage population growth

1979: Government proposal encourages all couples to have just one child

1982: Family planning becomes basic state policy

2000: A couple can have a second child, if both of them are only children

2013: Couples allowed to have a second child if one of them is an only child

2015: End of one-child policy and all couples are allowed to have a second child.

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On the other hand, some older women, already in their early 60s, were quite firm that had the one-child policy ended earlier, they would have tried for another child, even up to their late 40s.

So, did the one-child policy go on for too long? And was there a robust enough national debate? Many people are now asking these questions.

Were China's leaders slow to act?

All censuses carried out after 1990 point to the rapid decline of the total fertility rate (the average number of children born to a woman over her lifetime) in China, which is lower than the 2.1 needed as a replacement fertility rate.

But there has been fierce disagreement over the true figure. For instance, a population survey in 2000 indicated the total fertility rate was an alarmingly low 1.22; family planning officials, however, marked it up to 1.8, arguing many births were unreported. In the end, the authorities went with 1.8.

Might the difference mean that an otherwise urgent situation was downplayed and action delayed?

New born Chinese child at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital on 30 April 2012Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image captionSome are asking if the one-child policy was allowed to go on for too long

Even today, one struggles to find an authoritative figure for China's current total fertility rate - some put it at 1.2-1.4; others between 1.5 and 1.7 - which is lower than in the US (1.8) or India (2.3).

Some did voice their concerns and call for changes to stem the decline in population growth, but little heed appears to have been paid.

More than a decade ago Ye Tingfang, a member of China's top political advisory body, the CPPCC (Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference) argued that it is against nature to intervene in the reproduction process. He tabled a motion at the 2007 People's Congress session, calling for an end to the one-child policy as soon as possible.

The State Family Planning Committee told him the country would not change the one-child policy. His follow-up petition met with silence.

Other dissenting voices include a book in 2012 entitled "Are there too many Chinese?" written by James Liang and Jianxin Li, two professors from Peking University.

They argued that China's birth rate had become too low, and if the trend continued, the country would age too fast, the economy would suffer and society would become unstable. They urged adjustment to family planning policy as well.

It is difficult to guess what went on behind the scenes with decision makers; the fact is, it was not until 2013 that we saw some relaxation of the one-child policy.

Do two children make you rich?

These days one thing that has changed is there does seem to be more open discussion about population matters in China.

In some places authorities have stopped collecting fines for children borne outside of the quotas.

Some experts propose using 2% to 5% of GDP to encourage births, through tax reductions and cash incentives.

Others say people should be allowed to have as many children as they want.

The design manuscript for a Year of the Pig stampImage copyrightREUTERS
Image captionChina's 2019 stamps, showing two parent pigs and three piglets, were interpreted by many as a way of encouraging couples to have more children

And there is a lot of propaganda - which people poke fun at.

"'One child makes you poor, two children make you rich' - it's too soon for such slogans, we need some breathing space!" shouts one netizen.

"'You regret if you don't have children, and you have nobody to look after you when you grow old' - this is so against what we were told growing up (to marry late and have fewer children). The change is too fast!" laments another.

Mock posters are doing the rounds too.

And this is really what has changed. Individuals happen to be more free-thinking now and independent - and not easily swayed by propaganda or lukewarm incentives.

They live for themselves, not for the country any more.

It turns out it is much harder to encourage population growth than to curb it - in the end, it's down to individuals to make the decision.

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数据 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (4063 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:10:25

现在每年有1700万人口出生。10年以后,800万。育龄妇女23-30岁人数会减低40% -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (59 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:12:56

目前最重要的应该是老龄化问题 -我爱栀子花- 给 我爱栀子花 发送悄悄话 我爱栀子花 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:28:22

40,50年代每年的出生人口数量也是一千多万,他们是怎么生出后面每年2000万人口的? -north88- 给 north88 发送悄悄话 north88 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:49:36

也好,世界上人太多了没有目的地活着。。。。。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:14:03

关键是一个多上班的人要养一个老人。养老医疗太贵了,负担不起 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:17:32

中国和印度一样, 根本不用愁出生率. 印度中国和日本不能比,看看卫生习惯就知道. 把退休年纪延长才是根本 -2017wx- 给 2017wx 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:12:52

活到九十只工作不到三十年, 啥社会也养不了 -2017wx- 给 2017wx 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:14:11

确实。男的60岁真的看着好年轻。再工作7,8年完全没问题,尤其是某些技术岗位。 -qinyunfuxiu- 给 qinyunfuxiu 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:16:47

男的活到90的难,很多90的是女奶奶。让70的爷爷干活。 -水准- 给 水准 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:18:35

哈哈哈。。这倒是。。 -qinyunfuxiu- 给 qinyunfuxiu 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:21:33

有男奶奶吗? -午后阳光亮- 给 午后阳光亮 发送悄悄话 午后阳光亮 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:25:19

现在男同的妈已经有了,再过十几二十年就升级变奶奶了。。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:34:54

你再重复100遍也改变不了现实。我现在那些吃福利的房客也不生很多孩子了。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:15:19

吃福利的怎么成了你的房客?他们应该有福利房住。很便宜。 -雨女- 给 雨女 发送悄悄话 雨女 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:22:59

福利房也得有人经营啊,你以为是政府的么。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:27:22

觉得数据不可信。看看本坛,四十岁上下的人都还有弟弟妹妹的,还都是城市的。还有我LD国内的那些大学同学都有二娃的。 -Baritoner- 给 Baritoner 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:17:07

这文章说,十年前中国统计数据就出来了。但是决策者也是不信。最后把数据上调了发布的。说改独生子女政策可能改得太晚了 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:19:19

对. 我国内同学也发现有俩娃, 估计都是出国进修时生的. 我在学校那些公派出国的都是抓紧生娃 -2017wx- 给 2017wx 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:20:11

。。。。 -qinyunfuxiu- 给 qinyunfuxiu 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:29:59

我也不知道广州算几线。出国前都没有这种说法。:) -Baritoner- 给 Baritoner 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:32:06

南方啊。南方几线都没事。 -qinyunfuxiu- 给 qinyunfuxiu 发送悄悄话 (50 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:36:42

社会老龄化,生出来的孩子,创造的价值,不够养老的成本。 -katies- 给 katies 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:18:36

为啥需要那么多人?还准备成为劳动密集形为主的国家?人家北欧没什么人不是照样经济和生活都很好? -pollyli- 给 pollyli 发送悄悄话 pollyli 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:19:01

平均一点几个上班族要养活一个退休老人。社会结构老化问题。不是中国一个国家的问题 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:20:20

北欧现在也不行了。真的变成沙特那样躺着吃资源的国家了 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:24:15

也不是吧。看看瑞典那么少的人口有多少名牌: Ikea, Ericsson, Volvo,..... -pollyli- 给 pollyli 发送悄悄话 pollyli 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:27:43

人家北欧小国人口少但生产的名牌多 -pollyli- 给 pollyli 发送悄悄话 pollyli 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:24:26

瑞典有石油,其他国家就只有森林吧 -pollyli- 给 pollyli 发送悄悄话 pollyli 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:28:48

是挪威有石油。写错了 -pollyli- 给 pollyli 发送悄悄话 pollyli 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:35:50

人口自然出生率一直再试图和社会资源同轨可惜政策 -julie116- 给 julie116 发送悄悄话 julie116 的博客首页 (110 bytes) () 12/27/2018 postreply 08:36:40

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