光这句话就足够他蹲几十年的了

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https://qz.com/1399966/wechat-messages-emerge-after-jd-ceo-richard-lius-rape-accusation/

 

“I was not willing”: WeChat messages emerge after JD CEO’s rape accusation

By Echo Huang

Earlier this month, the CEO of one of China’s most high-profile tech companies was arrested in the US after a woman accused him of rape. Richard Liu, chief of e-commerce giant JD.com, was released hours later and returned to China while authorities in the US investigate the case. The company has denied any wrongdoing.

Though details about the case were initially vague, a new report from Reuters is painting a picture of the events leading up to and after the alleged attack. It also offers the perspective of Liu’s accuser, a 21-year-old student attending the University of Minnesota, whose WeChat messages have been reviewed by the news agency. The report emerged shortly after US prosecutors took over the case on Thursday (Sept. 20).

“I was not willing,” read a message the woman wrote in Chinese to multiple friends on Aug. 31 around 2am, about an hour after she was allegedly raped. “Tomorrow I will think of a way to escape.”

The woman had asked a friend not to report the alleged attack to the police because Liu would “suppress it,” she said. “You underestimate his power.” Another friend ended up reporting it.

Liu, who’s estimated to be worth $6.3 billion, is among a list of prominent Chinese men—including charity leaders, writers, and a Buddhist monk—who have been embroiled by allegations of sexual harassment as the #MeToo movement sweeps the country.

His case in particular has fascinated Chinese internet users, some of whom have done their own investigation of social-media posts and photos in an attempt to learn the identity of the woman and the events that transpired that night. The Reuters report has now become the top search term (link in Chinese) on Chinese social network Weibo as of this writing, with more than 2 million people searching for related reports.

Their previous sleuthing had led them to identify a woman with the surname Jiang as Liu’s accuser. After that, people began to dig into her social-media accounts to surface photos of Jiang in tight clothing and compare her to Liu’s wife, Zhang Zetian, a 24-year-old internet celebrity known as “Sister Milk Tea.” Jiang had denied (link in Chinese) she was Liu’s accuser.

According to Reuters, Liu, who is attending a business doctoral program at the university, met the female student at a party he threw on Aug. 30 in a Japanese restaurant in Minneapolis. Of the two dozen or so guests, about 20 of them were men. The group brought at least one case of wine to drink during the dinner, and the woman told her friend through WeChat that she felt pressure to drink that evening. “It was a trap,” she wrote. “I was really drunk.”

When the party ended around 9:30pm, Liu and the woman headed to a house rented by one of his classmates before he pulled her into his hired car. They then headed to the woman’s apartment. During the drive, Liu began touching the woman. “Then I begged him not to… but he did not listen,” according to WeChat messages she sent her friend. Liu reportedly raped the woman around 1am.

Jill Brisbois, a US criminal lawyer for Liu, told Reuters that Liu maintains his innocence and is cooperating with the investigation. Brisbois could not immediately be reached for comment. JD.com, Liu’s e-commerce company, didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Liu has not been charged. A felony rape in Minnesota carries a sentence of up to 30 years in prison and a fine of $40,000.

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白纸黑字的微信是记者用嘴写出来的? -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:33:29

人家说了不愿意,他有证据人家愿意吗? -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (155 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:43:21

还有在她自己的公寓里 半夜你为啥让刘进来 -hhhh- 给 hhhh 发送悄悄话 hhhh 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:31:42

喝醉的迹象是什么? -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:17:23

这一句微信,是事后发的,还是事前发的? -OneManArmy- 给 OneManArmy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:24:50

应该是事后 -一笑拉- 给 一笑拉 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:28:05

都是她自己说的,还得看别的证据吧 -我也说句实话- 给 我也说句实话 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:25:11

这种也会有陪审团吗?有的话不好说最后结果会怎么样,疑点太多,哈哈 -我也说句实话- 给 我也说句实话 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:29:52

女的怕他的权势呀,后来还是学校的老师鼓励她报警的 -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:04:10

如果我是陪审团员我会接受这个解释。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:15:10

检察官有很大的胜算 -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (92 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:20:46

没别的证据这句话本身不管用 -几颗汗滴- 给 几颗汗滴 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:42:52

事后做了性侵鉴定,证据不会没有的 -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:13:10

醉酒了还能发微信,为啥发?JD强哥CEO一点也不自重,活该? -夏荷仲梦- 给 夏荷仲梦 发送悄悄话 夏荷仲梦 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:43:30

小A是何心思对这刑事案来说完全是irreverent的问题。刑事案只问事实 - 性行为有没有发生,是不是自愿,如此而已。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:56:21

我怎知道啊?但如果起诉这不是小A告老刘而是检察官代表那郡人民告老刘,小A只是证人而已。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:03:13

只要检方能够找研究结果或心理学家作证QJ案的受害人对报案反复无常很平常就能说服陪审团。只要可能说服陪审团就没问题。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:10:27

小B和第一次的警察或可以做证人,小B是看到或听到什么,才第一次报警的? -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:12:54

非常可能。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:13:46

事后发的 -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:09:37

这件事有点诡异。刘肯定是流氓,但这个女不是小留吗,怎么会一起喝酒,然后到她房间的?到刘的房间还make sense 一点。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:45:57

哈哈哈,我真的觉得刘是流氓,但这A不是那么无辜清白。哪个正常的女孩子会和陌生人喝酒,上陌生人车,带陌生人进自己的房间? -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:00:15

这些问题对这刑事案完全irreverent。即使两人上了床女的说不要男的硬来也是QJ。 -Porcelana- 给 Porcelana 发送悄悄话 Porcelana 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:06:04

是呀是呀。可无关也不等于这些问题不存在呀。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:09:15

不应该算陌生了,据说29日的邮轮party,她就去了,还见过绿茶妹。我猜测是崔副院长给找的地陪或翻译。 -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:08:16

哦,那个崔副院长不知道怎样的。但一个女孩子半夜三更把一个男人带进自己的公寓怎么着也是件奇怪的事。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:11:40

以刘强东的能力要想进这女孩公寓应该是没问题的,这点小事都办不成还做什么CEO,女孩当时也许喝醉了 -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:16:12

哈哈哈,其实是有点矛盾的,按道理,以刘的能力不需要强奸,他们喝酒是在餐厅,公共场所,美国,很多人,这个女的能喝醉,能上刘的车,能 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (125 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:25:13

中国有谁巴不得和名人喝酒? -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:30:19

可是是一个年轻的女留学生,喝了就喝了,喝了还上车,还进房,还是比较少见的。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:33:22

1, 女孩喝醉了,2, 因为天晚没车,而且还有司机,女孩认为坐他的车不会出事, -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:41:54

让人灌的酒,进了房聊个天也不能说人勾引你,至少以老美的常识不会 -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (104 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:44:28

我知道,我说的都是在刘是流氓,人渣的前提下八一些不make sense的细节。聊天?时机,时间不对啊,喝醉了,半夜三更的。老美的 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (98 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:47:29

她们学院的崔副院长派她来接待刘的,一开始她是不愿意的,碍于副院长的面子,才去的 -女球迷- 给 女球迷 发送悄悄话 女球迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:04:13

前面没问题的,如是真的就是人情。后面的呢,看着不正常。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 16:17:44

人老美才不管你啥心思,就算是你老婆你当老公的 -MoonRiverMe- 给 MoonRiverMe 发送悄悄话 (136 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 17:02:20

两回事。你说的定罪。我们现在讨论的是背后的细节问题,不矛盾,不影响。 -itistrue- 给 itistrue 发送悄悄话 itistrue 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 17:19:03

"Sister milk tea", LOL. -绿蚁采菊- 给 绿蚁采菊 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:46:57

我觉得这个女生的现在勇敢的站出来很好,大家都知道刘是有钱有势的人,一旦告发会有无数疑问和污水泼来。 -HAPPY-DAY- 给 HAPPY-DAY 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 15:50:39

又是个喝醉的女生。包括指责大法官的两个,自己都喝醉。 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (140 bytes) () 09/24/2018 postreply 17:35:11

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