I, FOR ONCE, AGAINST NATIONAL SALES TAX

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national sales tax, is nothing new, varies politicians already try it, it will not work.

It is not a fair tax. once some candidates was promoting 17% straight flat sale tax, and do away with the IRS codes.  It will not stop top 1% super rich people on spending, they can always go out of country, but for sure, will hurt the bottom 40% of people thats already been struggling.

for many many years, I was completely for it, but after I got in the landlord biz, I had never realized how many disadvantage people struggle in the bottom, an additional 9% sales tax, will only hurt them more. 

national sales tax, will open up a new can of worm, soon or later, it will be 10%, 11%, 12%, NO MORE NEW TAXES!!!!

yes, I don't pay any federal income tax, and little state tax, but I pay our fair share thru property tax, I am not only paying for my kids education, but also another 200 kids education, we are paying 12% of my gross receipts for property tax, another 9% will just break not only me, but all landlords back.

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no tax is fair for everyone! however i do vote for flat, simple -pediatrician2- 给 pediatrician2 发送悄悄话 pediatrician2 的博客首页 (136 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 14:37:46

additionally, it is so difficult for US to do anything major. -pediatrician2- 给 pediatrician2 发送悄悄话 pediatrician2 的博客首页 (351 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 14:41:22

hehe. That's called democracy! -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:55:09

second to that -planotx- 给 planotx 发送悄悄话 (471 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 14:48:09

I think what is wrong is the government trying to -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (131 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 14:52:23

yes, politician lobbyist is another problem -planotx- 给 planotx 发送悄悄话 (107 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 15:23:38

I don't get it, how would 9% sales tax break your back? -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (369 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 15:49:45

you can donate $300 tax saving to any poor people to help them -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 15:52:03

an additional sales tax, will hurt small businesses. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (803 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:14:53

for $40k more in taxes? I said NO. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:18:41

oh, I got it, you don't pay federal tax at all. -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 15:57:48

秋色妹妹, when you are a landlord like JY, you need pay property -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (248 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:02:52

haha, I will need to find me a chinese buyer like tomorrow... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:15:55

if you incorporate your renting business -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (299 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:17:02

why you think price be lower w/ another 9% tax on top of that? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (130 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:21:50

it is not to help you, it is out of competition. -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (238 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:27:22

haha, then you have no idea how poor people live..... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (569 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:41:04

you think that they don't pay tax is fair? -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (233 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:52:36

life is not fair, so as everything else... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (517 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:09:46

if an immigrant like me can do it they can do it -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (329 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:16:23

immigrants like you, most likely elite class from china. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (730 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:35:32

wrong, I am just willing to work, not as you say an elite -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (521 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:45:43

not only you, many lower class people willing to work... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (297 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:56:45

you want to disqualify them from being good people -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (50 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:02:31

why is it has to pay tax tobe good people? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (379 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:05:22

to share responsibility is to be good -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (114 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:19:15

disagree, the constitution give government rights to tax trades -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (509 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:33:20

a person takes money collected -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (432 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:51:29

now you are speaking out of context.. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (832 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 19:20:54

why you want me to put food on your table? -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (417 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 21:11:22

flat tax is a bad news for landlord. -planotx- 给 planotx 发送悄悄话 (224 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:04:42

you guys don't pay federal income tax -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (102 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:08:51

how much propety tax you are paying? 5k? 10k? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (44 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:17:27

I am not benefiting from your tax, -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (225 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:38:29

yes the current tax system benefits small biz owners. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (613 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:51:44

999 supposed to help small biz -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (169 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:57:49

ofcause there will be no loopholes -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:59:18

there always be loopholes.. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (209 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:20:44

they already placed their money outside the country -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (176 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:31:35

so you think big corps will move the money back because of 999? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (133 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:37:27

they will have less incentive to move out more -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (267 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:53:16

0% vs. 9%, think again. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:06:26

some rich people are paying 10%-15% service fee -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (49 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:14:59

when there is a will, there is a way. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (137 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:36:52

not paying tax does not mean they are not paying cost -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (195 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:56:11

haha, if there only 9% tax, someone will do it for 5%.. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (69 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 19:06:44

999 will not help small biz. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (390 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:18:04

payroll tax is gone. -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (274 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:24:32

回复:payroll tax is gone. -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (67 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:26:05

whose going to support SS or unemployment? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (204 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:44:35

it can be arranged -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (143 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:48:33

haha, arranged with what? -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (214 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:53:49

ofcause not with your money. -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (303 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:59:28

I pay my 15% SS tax, just not income tax. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (111 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:02:59

I do not think the statement is fair. -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (580 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:40:48

well the 30K FICA will be eliminated with 999 -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (115 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:46:19

you mean no social security tax? Are we going to close SS progra -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 16:49:07

no payroll tax. don't know about ss programs -秋色满院- 给 秋色满院 发送悄悄话 秋色满院 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:02:10

Hehe, there is no perfect taxation system to be fair to all peop -Morning3evening4- 给 Morning3evening4 发送悄悄话 Morning3evening4 的博客首页 (1951 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:14:24

Agreed -Xiaoyuerziba- 给 Xiaoyuerziba 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 21:34:03

JY, consider yourself lucky you only pay 12% of gross revenue fo -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (866 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:16:46

let's burn the house down on New Years Day. :-) -planotx- 给 planotx 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:56:51

haha. funny one. most of appraisal behind for a year. -美蓝海- 给 美蓝海 发送悄悄话 美蓝海 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 18:08:30

哈哈,支持!需要那些too-big-to-fail公司多付税。 -美蓝海- 给 美蓝海 发送悄悄话 美蓝海 的博客首页 (41 bytes) () 11/02/2011 postreply 17:39:05

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