打败癌症的都柏林医生 -- 请三思

来源: 圭妈 2017-01-25 14:58:06 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (4047 bytes)

这是我们文学城的一位已经去世的肺癌病人postinspire.com的文章。我copy一下, 并附上链接。

 

https://www.inspire.com/groups/american-lung-association-lung-cancer-survivors/discussion/the-tragedy-of-yvonne/

 

“The TRAGEDY of Yvonne

 

When the news of the passing of my friend Yvonne, I felt sad, but, more over, I felt MAD!

Yvonne was 45, pretty healthy when she found she got cancer. She started to research, found a book by DR. Day, talked about how to use juice from organic food to cure cancer. She grabbed it as bible, taking juice every 2 hours around the clock like medicine, but only to see the cancer getting worse. So she wrote to Dr. Day, then being told that she had to try harder. Then she turned to all kinds of alternative medicines like herbs except the orthopedic treatments! All the friends were trying to stop her since she was apparently heading wrong direction. But she said: " If I am going to die, I want to die naturally!" Very shocking, isn't it?
She started with stage 2 breast cancer, which can be cured 90% and up by orthopedic treatments! She even wrote a book about her journey thinking herself as a good example of cancer heroine!

Till she could not eat food and was gasping for air, she still believed she would recover. Not until exactly 3 days before she died, she realized she was going to lose the war. She became so desperate! Literary went crazy. She wrote down ( she lost voice):" I want to do surgery!, I need to see a doctor!". She wanted to divorce her husband who stood by her all the time but failed to make her see a doctor. The last thing she did was tossing her bras all over the floor, she wanted to keep her breast so much, result in leading her to death! The nurses quickly gave her more morphine then she went sleep ever since till die.

It was such a shocking, sad ending the life of Yvonne! It haunted me. I wanted to write it out so people would take a lesson from her! Do not believe millions of so called cure on the web or books!

Jenny”

 

我认识不少癌症病人在生病前就是吃素的,有的还只吃有机蔬菜和水果,有一个还是尼姑,20岁不到就得了乳癌。也有很多人在生病后改吃素,每天喝好几杯VitaMix打的有机蔬果汁,但只有一人在每天大量喝蔬果汁之后肿瘤缩小。偶然的奇迹是有的,但只发生在极个别人身上。证明一种疗法有效必须要有statistical significance, 也就是要在大多数病人身上有效。

 

大量吃蔬菜水果也许没有错,但是一个人生了病不去正规医院接受正规治疗,而是在家喝蔬果汁或寻求所谓的alternative therapy, 那是在和自己的生命开玩笑。

 

这个世界骗子盛行,那是因为总会有人上当受骗。

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有的人是相信自己的意念,当自己的意念和别人的相似,就形成了一群信众。意念是顽固的,你的劝告不一定有作用。 -阿明.- 给 阿明. 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 15:26:30

大量水果对健康没什么好处,果糖代谢负担全在肝上 -及时的雨- 给 及时的雨 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 15:49:31

我相信“柏林医生”的做法可能对一些人有效。重点是他不排斥正常治疗,蔬菜水果等可能会使肿瘤生长减缓,杀死肿瘤还得靠化疗手术等。 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话 吃与活 的博客首页 (264 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 16:28:33

不相信“都柏林医生”?:D -阿明.- 给 阿明. 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 16:40:12

没注意还有个“都”:) -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话 吃与活 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 17:02:00

如果所患肿瘤恰好也表达胰岛素受体,那么吃米面等“素食”也可能刺激肿瘤生长,因为这些糖类食物可引起胰岛素分泌。 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话 吃与活 的博客首页 (76 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 17:06:14

就是说主食不能多吃,不管是肉还是白米白面吧 -羽衣甘蓝- 给 羽衣甘蓝 发送悄悄话 羽衣甘蓝 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 18:45:47

这种情况比较复杂。一方面要照顾肿瘤生长,一方面要照顾人体免疫。这两者都与激素有关。 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话 吃与活 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 19:22:53

我不相信蔬菜水果能减缓肿瘤生长,请问有临床证据吗?拿经过N多次临床研究证实有效的云芝多糖来说, -nyagela- 给 nyagela 发送悄悄话 nyagela 的博客首页 (268 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 17:50:20

这方面的大型临床研究还欠缺,但动物和流行病学研究支持植物食物对抑制肿瘤发展有益。补充剂和饮食是两回事,不能等同。 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话 吃与活 的博客首页 (227 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 19:13:17

MEAL study什么时候出结果啊,看起来是往正确的方向前进。 -羽衣甘蓝- 给 羽衣甘蓝 发送悄悄话 羽衣甘蓝 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 19:43:37

其实这个结果早就有,在坛里也讨论过。吃素对肠癌等消化系统癌症确有一定预防的效果,别的并没有好处。 -nyagela- 给 nyagela 发送悄悄话 nyagela 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 20:17:58

那就请这位都柏林的医生搞一次FDA监督的临床试验,如果成功,岂不稳获诺贝尔奖,名垂青史?恐怕他连peer review的数据都拿 -圭妈- 给 圭妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 21:23:50

食物当然不是补充剂,所以食物首先还是要当食物吃,吃的营养全面人才能健康,才能增强免疫系统抵抗癌症。 -nyagela- 给 nyagela 发送悄悄话 nyagela 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 20:05:17

吃兄的解释比较科学。我是观其大略,从千万年的进化史角度,人类长期适应的饮食应该是接近猩猩的。 -羽衣甘蓝- 给 羽衣甘蓝 发送悄悄话 羽衣甘蓝 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 18:12:16

确实是这样 -我的小宝贝- 给 我的小宝贝 发送悄悄话 (251 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 16:53:01

你这个Dr. Day 和都柏林医生是啥关系? -dudaan- 给 dudaan 发送悄悄话 dudaan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 17:47:29

那个人是Dr. John Kelly,完全不是一个人啊 -dudaan- 给 dudaan 发送悄悄话 dudaan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 17:50:01

但他们的观点是一样的 -- 不吃荤的,大量吃素食可以治愈癌症。 -圭妈- 给 圭妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 21:18:57

死于无知。 -happycow222- 给 happycow222 发送悄悄话 (335 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 18:28:12

实践是检验真理的唯一标准。所有的意见都要听,听了后自己要去验证。亚里斯多德也出错:女人的牙齿要比男人少 -羽衣甘蓝- 给 羽衣甘蓝 发送悄悄话 羽衣甘蓝 的博客首页 (182 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 18:40:57

请问你的实践是什么?有临床数据吗? -圭妈- 给 圭妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 01/25/2017 postreply 21:21:24

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