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碱性pH值---假教导假宗教
Some friend previously commented on the stubbornness of alkaline pH believers: these people have taken this classic quackery - the teaching of some false science to a whole new level, that they held such false teaching firm as RELIGION. Trying convincing them with scientific theory and evidences is like futile laboring to convert believers of false religion.
一些朋友以前曾对碱性pH值信徒的固执观点有过评论:这些人用那套经典的骗术---把一些伪科学的教导推广到一个全新的水平,犹如宗教信仰般地坚守那些假的东西。想用科学的理论和证据来说服他们也是徒劳的,就如无法改变一个人的虚假的宗教信仰。
Question:
"**** has stage 4 nsclc lung cancer with mets to liver. She is on the whole body diet monitoring her body ph. This last week it has been around 6-6.5 instead of 7.3 or 7.4 where cancer cells can't survive. She has not yet started her treatment yet so chemo would not be the reason. Her diet is strict. No sugar, meat, dairy and not even grains at this point. Only green vegetables and limon water and green tea. She has paniced and thinks that she will die if she does not get that ph up. Does anyone on this site have any ideas as to what she can do? I am trying to take care of her but don't know what else to do."
问:
"某某某得了四期非小细胞肺癌,且转移到肝了。她用全身饮食法来监测自己体内的pH值。上周她的pH大约在6-6.5左右,而不是7.3或7.4 那种癌细胞无法生存的pH。她还未开始化疗,所以化疗不是直接造成低pH的原因。她的饮食很严格。无糖、无肉、无奶制品甚至连谷物都没有。只有绿色蔬菜,柠檬水和绿茶。她惊慌了,认为自己会死,假如她没有把pH值升高的话。这网站里有没有人知道她在做什么吗?我想照顾她,但不知道还能做些什么?“
my answer:
if your true body pH drops to 6-6.5, you are dead!
You can play with urine pH by changing diet, but your physiological /blood /body pH stays constant or you go onto kidney dialysis or die.
我的回答:
如果你身体的pH值真的下降到6-6.5,你死了!
你可以通过改变饮食习惯而影响尿液pH值,但您的生理/血液/身体pH值保持不变,或者您通过肾透析保持平衡或者死亡。
Apparently she seeks only endorsement of her belief:
"I read "Cancer A Second Opinion" by Josef Issels, MD as well as The Anti Cancer Diet by another MD,( gave the book back and don't have his name). Also, read this book online, "Alive and Well" Dr. Philip Binzel. All three of these doctors talk about the body ph and how it contributes to the beginning of cancer. I would recommend these books to anyone who has gone through chemo/rad and now are trying to keep the cancer in remission. Had I not read these books and the success stories of real live people who cured the remaining cancer left in their bodies with this diet change I would still be in pure hell over this news of my **** with stage 4 lung cancer..."
很显然,她只认同她相信的那些:
“我读了由约瑟夫-伊塞尔斯医生所著的《癌症,第二种看法》及另一医生的《抗癌饮食》的书(此书还了,没有他的名字)。此外,还在网上读了菲利普-宾采尔博士的《健在》。这三位博士都谈到身体pH值及其影响癌症的最初。我会建议那些经过化疗/放疗/不想复发的人读这些书。如果我没有看过这些书和没有读到那些用此饮食法治愈了他们体内剩余的癌的真实的成功事例的话,我会对某某某得了第四期肺癌的消息炼狱般难受...”
my answer:
it is not a crime to be ignorant - we all are from time to time, but it is a sin to come out in public spreading quack theory and misleading beliefs. A bodily pH of 6-6.5???? He or she would be deader than an ancient mummy!!!!
我的回答:
无知不是一种犯罪---我们(见识)都随时间成长,但在公众场合散布江湖理论和误导性信仰是一种罪过。一个人身体的pH值6-6.5????他或她早比一个古老的木乃伊还死!!!!
You can try to read as many MD or PhD books, but what you really need to pick up is some middle and high school science basics. [is there a nicer way to say this?]
您可以尝试读许多医生或博士的书籍,但你真正需要的是拿起一些初中和高中的科学基础知识。 (有没有比这种说法更好些?)
Otto Warburg discovered many decades ago that cancer prefers anaerobic metabolism even in the presence of abundant oxygen supply - the result is an accumulation of lactic acid, and lowering of pH in cancer cells, this in turn leads to necrosis, hypoxia and invasive phenotype of cancer.
沃伯格几十年前就发现癌症喜欢无氧代谢,即使有大量氧气供应的存在下 - 其结果是乳酸堆积,使癌细胞中的pH值降低,从而导致坏死,缺氧和侵袭型癌。
So, yes, cancer causes lower local pH (not body or systemic pH), but NOT the other way around. You can develop life-threatening metabolic acidosis by totally different mechanism, but such acidosis does not cause cancer!
所以,是的,癌症使局部pH值降低(不是身体或全系统的pH值),但不是低pH值致癌。您可能有危及生命的、由完全不同的机制引起的代谢性酸中毒,但这种酸中毒不会导致癌症!
A healthy balanced vegetarian diet helps prevent, slow the progression of, cancer, NOT because such diet raises your body pH;
一个健康平衡的素食有助于预防、延缓癌症的进展,但不是因为这种饮食提高了您的身体pH值;
A meat packed, sugar-sweet, hormone rich, fiber-less, imbalanced diet hurts your chance to survive cancer, NOT because it lowers your bodily pH.
富含肉类、糖-甜类和激素而缺少纤维、不均衡的饮食会伤害你癌症生存的机会,但不是因为它降低了你的身体pH值。