You might think it's okay, but I don’t!

本帖于 2019-03-29 18:01:13 时间, 由普通用户 RabbitHole 编辑

My colleagues may think it’s okay that the Russians offered dirt on a Democratic presidential candidate as part of what was described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign, you might think that’s okay.

My colleagues may think it’s okay might when there was an offer to the son of the president, who had pivotal role in campaign, the president’s son did not call FBI, he did not adamantly refuse that foreign help.  No, the president’s son said he would love the help of the Russias. You might think that’s okay.  he took that meeting.  

You might think that’s okay that Paul Manafort, the campaign chair summed with great experience in running campaigns also took the meeting, you might think that’s okay, that the president’s son-in-law also took that meeting. You might think that’s okay that they concealed it from the public.  You might say that's all okay, that the only disappointment from that meeting was that the dirt they received on Clinton was better.  You might think that’s okay.

You might think that’s okay when that was discovered a year later, they lied about that meeting, and said that was about adoption. You might think that’s okay that the president who have reported to helped to dictate that lie.   You might say that's all ok. I don’t! 

You might think that’s okay that the campaign chairman of the presidential campaign would offer information about that campaign to a Russia oligarch in exchange for money or debt forgiveness.  You might think that’s okay, I don’t!

You might think that’s okay that the campaign chairman offered polling data, campaign polling data to someone linked to Russian intelligence, I don’t think that’s okay!

You might think that’s okay that the president himself called on Russia to hack his opponent’s emails “if they were listening” 

You might think that’s okay that later that day in fact the Russian’s attempted to hack a server affiliated with that campaign. I don’t think that’s oaky. 

You might think that’s okay that the president’s son-in-law sought to establish a secret back channel communication with Russians through a Russian diplomat facility.    I don’t think that’s oaky.

You might think that’s okay that an associate of the President made direct contact with GRU through Guccifer 2 and WikiLeaks and considered as hostile intelligence agency.  

You might think that’s okay that a senior campaign official was instructed to reach to that associate to find out what that hostile intelligence agency had to say in terms of dirt on his opponent. 

You might think it’s ok, that the national security advisor designate secretly conferred with a Russian ambassador about undermining US sanctions. And you might think it’s ok. He lied about it to the FBI.

You might say that's all OK. You might say that's just what you need to do to win. But I don't think it's OK. I think it's immoral. I think it's unethical. And I think it is unpatriotic, And yes, I think it is corrupt. And evidence of collusion.

now I have always said that the question whether this amounts to proof of conspirtacy was another matter. 

Wheither the special counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt.  the Proof of that crime act would be up to the special counsel and I would accept his decision and I do.

He is a good and honorable man and he is a good prosecutor. But I do not think that conduct criminal or not okay. and the day we do think that's okaytm I think that is the day we will look back and say that is the day America lost its way.

And I will tell you one more thing that is of the hearing today. I don't think it's okay during a presidental campaign Mr. Trump sought the Kremlin's help to have a real estate deal in moscow that would make him a fortune. According to the special counsel, hundreds of millons of dollars.

And I don't think that is okay he concealed it from the public and advocating a more and favorable policy to the russians even as he was seaking  the Russian's help. The Kremlin's help to make money.

I don't think it's okay his attorney lied to our committee. there is a different word for that than collusion  and it's called compromise and that is the subject of our hearing today.

Congressman Adam Schiff

 

 


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Adam Schiff这篇又在撒谎 -tibuko- 给 tibuko 发送悄悄话 tibuko 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 12:53:19

就是Think 比 facts 重要,像橘子可以看成香蕉,这样可以mislead那种 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (40 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 12:55:21

one needs to differentiate facts vs. opinions -RabbitHole- 给 RabbitHole 发送悄悄话 RabbitHole 的博客首页 (155 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:07:21

There are two (groups of) facts here. -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (568 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:17:16

Just to illustrate the 2nd point using Barr's letter -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (796 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:25:36

几百页纸呢,选哪句话都可以大做文章,俺只关心最后结论是啥就行了 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:28:29

"俺只关心最后结论是啥就行了"--This proves my point -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (199 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:30:35

是尊重结论,相信结论是根据facts的。难道您自己调查了吗?您哪里和她不同? -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:33:29

You just proved my 2nd point: 比如为什么没有为总统脱罪的事实 -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (241 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:35:31

这是司法部长的四页纸结论的一部分; 要再浓缩一下: -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (83 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:33:23

所以主观的人抓住哪句话都可以做文章的但不是结论。橘子是橘子,香蕉是香蕉 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:38:58

穆勒没有为总统脱罪:这是结论。 -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:42:27

罪,定义一下,不能结论矛盾 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:43:54

“it also does not exonerate him.“ -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:46:57

该清楚得清楚,靠模糊来误导不好 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:49:08

According to COURT FILING: Manafort shared polling data with Rus -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (448 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:28:56

穆勒两年调查结论没有collusion。 -bustout- 给 bustout 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:37:16

穆勒按照国会给的任务:1。 俄罗斯干预大选--证实。 -SwiperTheFox- 给 SwiperTheFox 发送悄悄话 SwiperTheFox 的博客首页 (154 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:41:11

go punch sand -bustout- 给 bustout 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:50:29

对的 -Sarsar- 给 Sarsar 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 03/29/2019 postreply 13:21:13

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