使转请进:我对投资“俩美”的全面分析

本帖于 2025-09-29 18:30:15 时间, 由版主 晓炎 编辑
使转,谢谢你的信任,我刚刚做了一些研究,我的分析见下。大部分都是用英文写的,因为有些商业用语的中文词我不是很熟。这个研究分析沿用了我处理商业案例的步骤 — (a) gather pertinent data, (b) evaluate potential returns vs. associated risks, (c) formulate conclusions, and (d) offer actionable recommendations,我把步骤列出,想着或许以后你可以参考我的这个 “逻辑系统” 去分析一些案例。另外,我对俩美的抵押贷款运作完全是现学现卖,所以如有错处,敬请使转原谅。
 
P.S.  我将我觉得重要的部分bolded了,这样比较方便看到。
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1. 公司简介及其与联邦政府的财务关系
 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (collectively “F&F” or GSEs) are pivotal to the U.S. housing finance system. They purchase mortgages, securitize them into mortgage-backed securities (MBS), and provide liquidity guarantees, enabling the distinctive 30-year fixed-rate mortgage. F&F back approximately 90% of U.S. mortgages, managing a portfolio exceeding $12 trillion. The 2008 subprime crisis triggered massive credit losses and the collapse of the private securitization market. Despite operational solvency (where revenues covered losses and expenses), the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) placed F&F into conservatorship. Below is my concise overview of the financial relationship between the U.S. government and F&F——
 
1.1- Senior Preferred Stock and Liquidation Preference
a) In 2008, under FHFA conservatorship, the U.S. Treasury committed to ensuring F&F’s solvency through Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreements (PSPAs). The Treasury provided capital in exchange for senior preferred stock.
b) F&F drew $187 billion from the Treasury under these PSPAs.
c) The senior preferred stock carries a 10% dividend (paid in cash or additional stock) and takes precedence over all other equity in liquidation scenarios.
d) As of 2025, the Treasury holds $194 billion in senior preferred stock and a $162 billion liquidation preference, totaling $356 billion.
1.2- Warrants for Common Equity
a) Under the PSPAs, the Treasury received warrants to acquire ~80% of F&F’s common stock at a nominal price ($0.00001 per share). If exercised, these warrants would significantly dilute existing common shareholders. 
– Negative assessment: high dilution potential for current shareholders.
 
2. 俩美的现阶段财务状况
2.1- Since 2012, F&F have generated $410 billion in cumulative net profits. In 2024, they reported $36 billion in pre-tax income, $28 billion post-tax, and credit losses below $1 billion. 
– Positive assessment: robust financial recovery
2.2- Through the pre-2019 “net worth sweep,” F&F repaid the Treasury’s $187 billion capital injection plus $110 billion in dividends. – Positive assessment: Debt-free status
2.3- Since 2019, F&F have retained earnings, accumulating $147 billion in capital by Q1 2025. However, this falls $330 billion short of the 3% Tier 1 core capital required to exit conservatorship and $389 billion below the 2020 Enterprise Regulatory Capital Framework’s “adequate capital” threshold. 
– Mixed assessment: strong progress but insufficient capital for regulatory independence. However, with this trajectory, I personally think that F&F may be able to meet capital requirements in a considerable short time frame.
 
3. 股权结构,股价及波动性
3.1- The Treasury controls ~80% of F&F’s equity via preferred stock and warrants.
3.2- The remaining 20% of common stock is held by mutual funds/retail investors (~80%) and hedge funds (~20%), including Bill Ackman’s Pershing Square (average cost ~$2/share).
3.3- F&F stocks trade on OTC market with low volume and high volatility, driven by policy sensitivity.
3.4- As of the end of September 2025, Fannie Mae closed at $12.75 (down 13% in 10 days, 52-week range $1.1–$16), and Freddie Mac at $11.7–$12.34. Recent gains stem from privatization expectations, though prices remain well below pre-crisis peaks. 
- Mixed assessment: the stock price has reached 13-16X from its bottom of $1.1 in less than a year, it demonstrated strong upward trend, yet the volatility is getting much higher as well.
 
4. 政府的大方向
4.1- Privatization push under Trump 2.0: Starting January 2025, the Trump administration revived privatization efforts stalled during 2017–2021 due to Congressional opposition. Trump supports retaining the “implicit guarantee” on F&F securities to prevent interest rate spikes while pursuing an orderly exit. His plan envisions merging F&F into a single entity, followed by an IPO with the government selling 5–15% of shares, partially funding a national sovereign wealth fund. 
– Positive assessment: limited initial share sales reduce dilution risk.
 
4.2- No direct statements from @realDonaldTrump since January 2025, but media confirms plans for a partial public listing in late 2025. 
– Negative assessment: Trump’s unpredictability poses risks, as always LOL
 
4.3- Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: In a September 2025 Fox interview, Bessent signaled action within “months,” or may even be “a month”,  framing privatization to monetize Treasury shares without market disruption, aligning with fiscal goals. He criticized FHFA Director Bill Pulte’s outspokenness but endorsed the privatization direction. 
– Positive assessment: Bessent’s Wall Street expertise supports an orderly exit to avoid rate spikes.
 
4.4- FHFA Director Bill Pulte: Son of real estate magnate Bill Pulte, he champions privatization, valuing F&F at $500–$700 billion. He emphasizes their strong financial health and focuses on monetizing shares post-conservatorship. While praised for boldness, his credibility is questioned for exaggeration. 
– Positive assessment: alignment among Trump, Bessent, and Pulte on privatization. Also, Bessent’s outburst revealed to investors his frustration with Pulte’s perceived “unreliability”, while subtly hinting that the $500-$700 billion figure might reflect an internal evaluation, possibly a psychological “leak”. This likely explains why your son noted the stock price reaching an ATH shortly afterward. 
 
4.5- Broader Signals: August 2025 reports suggest an IPO in late 2025, potentially raising $30 billion via a 5–15% share sale. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick called it “faster than expected.” However, a June 2025 Bloomberg analysis noted the government’s preference to retain partial control for budgetary reasons over full privatization. 
– Positive assessment: No indication of complete government withdrawal and the risk of huge dilution of stock shares.
 
5. “大佬们”的影响
5.1- Bill Ackman: As the largest private shareholder, Ackman’s January 2025 presentation provides critical insights:
a) He highlighted Fannie Mae’s 1968 privatization (for Vietnam War funding, with an implicit guarantee retained) and argued the 2008 conservatorship was unnecessary, as F&F were operationally solvent. He also claimed F&F overpaid the bailout funds.
b) He also stated that Trump’s first-term efforts stalled in 2020. With $147 billion in capital and low-risk portfolios, Ackman sees 2026 as viable for Fannie Mae’s exit (Freddie Mac slightly later), ending their “zombie” status to unlock value without taxpayer risk. 
– Mixed assessment: not align with Trump’s combo IPO, yet I don’t see this as a deal breaker
c) Ackman’s valuation: Post-privatization, common shares could reach ~$30, implying a $200–$250 billion enterprise value. 
– Mixed assessment: At the current price of ~$12, despite a strong upward trend, new investors may face heightened risks.
 
5.2- Tim Howard (Fannie Mae CFO, 1990–2004): In his 2025 article “A Matter of Fact,” Howard calculated F&F’s value at $780 billion, based on profits of $185 billion (2014–2018), $244 billion (2019–2023), and $288 billion (2024), using an S&P 500 P/E ratio of 27. Relative P/E (45–85% of S&P 500) reflects regulatory sensitivity. He supports maintaining the implicit guarantee to stabilize rates. 
– Mixed assessment: I personally think that the $780 billion valuation seems too high; with 45–85% of S&P’s P/E, $400–$500 billion is more realistic. 
- Negative assessment: profit growth slowed from 31% (2014–2018 to 2019–2023) to 18% (2019–2023 to 2024), reasons unclear.
 
6. 房贷利息对私有化的影响
F&F’s privatization could influence U.S. mortgage rates, given their 90% market share and role in maintaining low-cost 30-year fixed-rate mortgages through the implicit government guarantee on their mortgage-backed securities (MBS).
6.1- Base Case: Retention of Implicit Guarantee
Trump’s plan to retain the implicit guarantee during a 5–15% IPO (per 4.1) ensures investor confidence in F&F’s MBS, keeping yields low. Mortgage rates, estimated at 6.5–7% in 2024, would likely remain stable or rise marginally (0–0.2%), reaching 6.5–7.2% by 2026. Ackman and Howard’s emphasis on the guarantee supports this outcome, as does Bessent’s focus on market stability.
6.2- Risk Scenario: Removal of Guarantee
If the guarantee is removed or market confidence erodes due to policy uncertainty (e.g., Trump’s unpredictability, per 4.2), MBS yields could rise by 50–100 basis points, pushing mortgage rates to 7.5–8.5%. This is less likely, as the government prioritizes partial control (per 4.5).
6.3- Capital Raises
To address the $330–$389 billion capital shortfall (per 2.3), F&F may raise guarantee fees or issue equity, potentially increasing mortgage rates by 0.2–0.5% (e.g., from 6.5% to 6.7–7%). Their strong financials ($410 billion in profits, per 2.1) could mitigate fee hikes.
6.4- Policy Volatility
Delays or shifts in privatization, compounded by external factors like Federal Reserve rate hikes, could raise rates by 0.3–1% (to 7–7.5%). The planned late-2025 IPO (per 4.5) aims to minimize disruption, but risks remain.
 
- Negative assessment: if the mortgage rate increases due to any of the above reasons, IPO could be on hold.
 
7. Fed近期操作对私有化的影响
7.1- Fed easing supports F&F’s capital buildup (per 2.3) by lowering borrowing costs and boosting housing demand, aiding the $330–$389 billion shortfall without aggressive fee hikes (per 6.3). However, if inflation rebounds, prompting paused cuts or hikes, it could raise MBS yields by 50–100 basis points, complicating the implicit guaranteed retention (per 4.1 and 6.2) and delaying the late-2025 IPO. 
7.2- Lower rates could enhance affordability, spurring originations and F&F volumes (currently ~70% of new mortgages), but stagflation risks (slow growth, sticky inflation) may temper this. For investors, Fed cuts signal softer economic landing, potentially lifting F&F stock prices amid privatization hype (per 3.4), though dilution risks persist (per 1.2).
7.3- The September 2025 rate cut to 4.00–4.25% supports gradual rate easing, benefiting F&F’s recapitalization, but inflation vigilance could cap upside for affordability and privatization timelines.
 
- Mixed assessment: Here’s hoping the Fed slashes rates, inflation stays low, and stagflation doesn’t crash the party before F&F’s IPO. I’m saying this with a smirk, since nobody can predict this rollercoaster LOL
 
8. 总结
8.1- Primary Risk: Full privatization could trigger massive dilution from the Treasury’s warrants (per 1.2), impacting stock prices and potentially unsettling markets, which could indirectly raise mortgage rates.
8.2- Secondary Risk: Trump’s unpredictability (per 4.2), influenced by competing political and economic interests, could derail privatization plans, affecting rate stability.
8.3- Valuation: Ackman’s $200–$250 billion estimate (per 5.1) is more credible than higher figures, though his stake may bias his optimism.
8.4- Mortgage Rate Outlook: Retaining the implicit guarantee likely keeps rates stable (6.5–7.2%), but investors and borrowers should monitor late-2025 IPO developments and Fed policy for potential shifts.
8.5- Fed Policy Context: the September 2025 rate cut supports gradual rate easing, benefiting F&F’s recapitalization, but inflation vigilance could cap upside for affordability and privatization timelines
 
9. 推荐
 
My Investment Perspective: 
9.1- at Ackman’s $2/per, even if it’s not outright theft, it’s a low-risk entry point with significant upside potential.  The valuation minimizes downside exposure, making it an attractive proposition.
 
9.2- at 使转’s $5/per, the upside potential is substantial, with a risk-reward profile that remains compelling. Your analysis is spot-on, brilliantly done! I only wish I’d connected with you at the start of this year to capitalize on this insight LOL
 
9.3- at the current price of ~$12, short-term speculation could appeal to high-risk investors seeking quick gains. Long-term investors, however, may find value in waiting for greater clarity on privatization, dilution and interest rate impacts. 

所有跟帖: 

. -gladys- 给 gladys 发送悄悄话 gladys 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 16:52:59

你看懂了? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 16:56:31

. -gladys- 给 gladys 发送悄悄话 gladys 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:00:42

那个时候炒点跟现在可是大不相同了。。。 -bogbog- 给 bogbog 发送悄悄话 bogbog 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:07:47

bog好,LOL,还是你聪明! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:09:47

Good analysis... I don't think I will buy at $12.. -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (50 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:08:04

班头好,even someone like you, fully charged to speculate, is -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (320 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:12:34

那也要确定一些再投,ROI没有,哈哈,Intc我也是在政策出来以后投的 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:11

班头厉害,这下该是我对你膜拜了LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:17:27

假如IPO后, 就不值得再投了,是Income 股, 类似AIG。 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:32:58

同意!IPO以后或许差不多就到$30了, 但这个市场很难说,投机者不少lol, -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (129 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:44:11

相关sectors funds, pension funds, 加上国家主权财富基金, 会是投资热门。 俩美比2007 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (35 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:52:39

是的,确实与2008年subprime mortgage crisis 以前很不同的状况了! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (158 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:56:58

是不是还不如投机circle安全?哈哈 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:45:31

不一定, 2 分钱赌 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:54:32

lol,和班头赌,得让他拔个10米 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:57:54

本以为俩美给他的10米锦上添花, 可惜他看不上。 开玩笑。 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:01:38

LOL,很难说,没准以后是他的救命稻草呢,never say never ! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:03:11

好吧,加入到观察股里,哈哈 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:17:00

那请你再看看下面SFL9113网友的 4 Scenarios post。 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:43:40

晓炎好, 写的真好,我们刚刚到香港, 现在早上8:08, -bogbog- 给 bogbog 发送悄悄话 bogbog 的博客首页 (81 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:10:25

哈哈,打开看见的竟然是一块指南针。你那里是早上了吧?早! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:14:05

对, 刚刚截图的时候是8:08am,已经到达Hong Kong Island了。 -bogbog- 给 bogbog 发送悄悄话 bogbog 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:03

玩的开开心心的呀,bog 妹妹!不过得经常上来看看我们! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:18:35

又去买房,还是追星?哈哈 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:16:55

等您还债了我就再买~~哈哈 -bogbog- 给 bogbog 发送悄悄话 bogbog 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:17:58

唉,什么时候我变成了罗永浩啦,哈哈,到处都是债主 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:19:12

你又欠了虎的?不是只有我和bog吗? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:49

哈哈,班头的大头梦不知什么时候能实现。我和bog期待那笔巨款赔偿! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:19:49

十年 -BrightLine- 给 BrightLine 发送悄悄话 BrightLine 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:57

好!班头也得做10年,不能给你逃债逃掉了LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:29:38

这个研究下功夫了!见水平。 -我是一只井底蛙- 给 我是一只井底蛙 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:20:25

谢谢蛙!找资料用的AI,但是要弄懂确实花了我一个多小时,然后写就快了,我写东西很快的~ -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:22:17

谢谢你晓炎! -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (784 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:22:35

使转,你终于来啦,今天我可是脱了一层皮啊LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:24:20

谢谢你! -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:29:09

Just kidding.... 我也从中学到很多,谢谢你给我这个机会,否则我对这一块一点都不知道! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:31:25

你总是让人感到温暖,不会有压力 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (98 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:35:21

开心你喜欢我的那几个步骤,很好用的,以后你试试看,做个案例,发在这里,我们大家一起讨论! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:26:11

其实我写英文比较厉害是因为本科在这里读的,而且小时候受我爷爷的“压迫”,只能跟着他读英文小说 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:27:47

你的祖父是大学者, 敬仰! -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:58:11

他确实很厉害,脾气也很厉害LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:02:09

你的分析 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (296 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:40:50

期待你分享你的Exit Plan....take your time, I'm very interested! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:46:01

4 Scenarios For Fannie Mae And Its Preferreds -SFL19113- 给 SFL19113 发送悄悄话 (218208 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:23:01

这么长!打回去,做个Executive Summary 再递上来LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:25:20

转别人的 -SFL19113- 给 SFL19113 发送悄悄话 (91 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:41:05

知道的,我就是喜欢开玩笑LOL。当然不会惹麻烦,你这么好性格的人,迁就我的顽劣,怎么会! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:48:23

Discount factor 的rate 设在8% 好像太低了,一般这样的公司都得是at least 10%, 是否高 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (273 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:36:28

同意 -SFL19113- 给 SFL19113 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 17:42:53

你看到实质,还得是专家,期待你的进一步结论 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:53:28

我做过很短的一段时间Econ Model, 比较三脚猫,现在都是听经济师给我做presentation 了, -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (162 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:07:13

谢谢你, 更具体数字化,让我更清晰,虽然 还在消化第四个Scenario -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (292 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:39:43

Great analysis! -brrrr- 给 brrrr 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:21:22

Many thanks!~ -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:24:17

分析很全面,不过我一般不碰这种类型公司,不够’Fancy’ -lionhill- 给 lionhill 发送悄悄话 lionhill 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 18:56:56

LOL,气死我了,还不够fancy,总比你我的盘子fancy吧! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:01:15

哈哈,标的不fancy不意味着分析不好! -lionhill- 给 lionhill 发送悄悄话 lionhill 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:14:38

就是,盘子可以不fancy,吃的内容是自己享受的,一定得fancy -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:34:25

给你看看我刚刚做的三文鱼!想知道步骤吗,吃起来很fancy嗒lol -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (82 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:02:32

很不错,把步骤发上来! -lionhill- 给 lionhill 发送悄悄话 lionhill 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:13:51

1,将三文鱼去皮,洗干净,切成不是很小的块状,放进一个玻璃的baking container -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (1039 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:29:37

多谢!下次做试试! -lionhill- 给 lionhill 发送悄悄话 lionhill 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:04:05

做了后给张照片看看,用个fancy点的盘子 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:27:12

不需要煎吗? -cnrhm2017- 给 cnrhm2017 发送悄悄话 cnrhm2017 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:12:35

不需要!煎了就会dry了。你也试试,做起来很方便! -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (209 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:25:46

我一般, -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (247 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:24:08

你这个漂亮的!向你讨烹饪详细步骤,可以赐教我这在上升期的鱼吗? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (173 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:29:25

这是cod吗? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:30:38

对的 -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (31 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:40:51

我冰箱里就有一盒现成的cod,这个周末也自己做一道,再加一杯pina colada, 过过神仙的日子 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:44:10

Enjoy! -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (29 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:45:53

你那个已很好了! -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (333 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:39:53

谢谢!一定试着做做看!我在做吃上是很精益求精的LOL -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:42:14

喜欢吃的。。 -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (84 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:43:54

pina colada,my favorite!你会做吗? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:45:10

这个是rum base的, -wiser56- 给 wiser56 发送悄悄话 wiser56 的博客首页 (50 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:55:46

下次挑战一下自己?好开心认识一个像我一样的吃货朋友LOL 晚安,为了有钱吃好的,我明天还得继续奋斗 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:59:30

还有使转上次给了我一个买三文鱼的link,看上去非常棒,和你分享 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (164 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:31:56

这个link的三文鱼非常鲜,我只用盐 Avacado oil Dash sweet basil (自己种的), 原滋原味 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:37:28

嫉妒LOL 我以后退休了也要自己种菜,可是我没有绿拇指,即使别人送的盆栽也养不好 -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (167 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:44:13

好的,都试试 -lionhill- 给 lionhill 发送悄悄话 lionhill 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:06:08

三文鱼我一般是放水先浸泡,然后沥干放盐,然后把自己家里种的rosemary切成小片撒上,烤箱350烤30分钟。味道很好 -aloevera- 给 aloevera 发送悄悄话 (78 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:50:59

谢谢Vera! 我把照片补上了哈,当作菜谱的交换lol -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/30/2025 postreply 04:34:40

朋友当时引荐FNMA 我也是同样感觉,但 -使转- 给 使转 发送悄悄话 (235 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 19:43:15

我重点关注了你的三文鱼和买三文鱼的链接 -HappyWed- 给 HappyWed 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:32:05

你是存心来气我的吗,我的文章不是重点吗? -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (179 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 20:33:34

总结: -jasonshane- 给 jasonshane 发送悄悄话 jasonshane 的博客首页 (10139 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:00:10

哈哈哈,你好棒!我正准备去睡觉了,被你这总结惊艳到了lol -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (364 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:04:24

既然ackman赞成,这$12/share 看起来OK,但是这股票我以前都看过,涨了很长一段时间了 -cnrhm2017- 给 cnrhm2017 发送悄悄话 cnrhm2017 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 21:06:33

早!确实,从年初的$1到9个月后的$12,Ackman的均价是$2…… -晓炎- 给 晓炎 发送悄悄话 晓炎 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/30/2025 postreply 04:36:37

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