可以告 HOA 的 manager 吗?

来源: 左右为难a 2011-08-14 13:47:52 [] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (57009 bytes)

有个HOA的manager,不知道为什么就跟我们过不去,或者是因为我说过她的一个照片不对,或者因为我们是中国人,或者因为我是出租房,或者房客跟她过不去,不知道,反正她利用手中的权利,频频给我和房客发罚款单。 一些罚款单是无中生有,一些是明显错误,故意找茬,当然,一些是真的。但是,我发现她特别的关照我的房子,几乎每两个星期就去巡视一下,看看能不能罚款。

这个星期很不容易申请到一个hearing at board meeting 的机会。我准备了一下,大意就是把什么的意思写下来,告诉Board of directors, 大伙认为她会疯狂反扑吗?以后更加给我找茬?

我这次申诉有赢的胜算吗?

下面是我申诉信的片段:

However, things are getting worse after I mentioned to HOA manager(Meredith) that a picture on April 1. violation letter was wrong, because that picture didn’t belong to my house. Since that day,  the more I called Meredith to get clarification or explain the situation, the more violations are coming. There are 9 violations during the last 4 months, Since April 21, we have received $450 fines from HOA, that is outrage!!! Please take a look at the pictures I took, it is beautiful on the front yard, We need to understand why we received so many violations with such high fine.

Further, we would like to know why suddenly there is a big jump of the violations and fine after I mentioned the picture was wrong. And if a picture was wrong, how can we believe that those violations without picture are correct?

How can the same tenants be fined for $450 in the last 4 months but “0” fine in the first 9 months? What was the change then? Only the HOA manager has been changed, and I mentioned to Meredith that a picture was wrong. Considering that the situation in front yard is getting better, is this a revenge?

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As a summary, there is only one notice with picture that is correct, but the tenants were in the middle of moving stuff to the container!  All other violations are either with wrong pictures(the weeds), missing pictures, or picture with wrong explanation(the debris in front porch)!

Given above situation & behavior pattern,  it seems that my house is under Meredith's special focus and attention. I know that HOA and Meredith have the power, but can you treat all houses in an equal and fair manner?

Another thing I need to mention is, I have been requesting a second review with the board of director,   But Meredith said no more review, and said she had talked to all directors, and majority said they have heard what I wanted to say, so no more review. I can’t comment if Meredith had really talked to all of you about my intention of a 2nd review?  Until I registered into HOA website, and found out all BOD’s names, then Meredith said that BOD can hear my voice one more time, why is there a change after I registered and after I got BOD’s name from the HOA website?

When I asked for email or phone number of BOD, Meredith also said all communications with BOD should be through her because she is hired by BOD, is that true?

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board 一般都是袒护HOA manager的。他们是一丘之貉。 -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (261 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:04:04

I meant Live with the fact, although I don't like it. -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:06:26

听起来很恐怖呀?难道不能上法庭告他们无中生有? -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (168 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:08:06

回复:告HOA,not that manager -美蓝海- 给 美蓝海 发送悄悄话 美蓝海 的博客首页 (334 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:07:42

谢谢你的建议,我真想告HOA。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (141 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:11:56

Board member 基本是选出来的. -thousanddollarbill- 给 thousanddollarbill 发送悄悄话 (154 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:20:21

我不是告board member, 是告 HOA manager -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (161 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:25:21

你讲的不错,但是board肯定是支持HOA manager的。除非他们本来就想fire他。 -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (214 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:30:19

天啊,真是天下乌鸦一般黑 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:31:37

还是不要做地主吧。今天的帖子有坏房客,有坏PM,有坏HOA。收摊睡了吧。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:41:34

哈哈, that's easy to do... -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:51:20

不要费这个劲,人家也是为了保卫家园。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (122 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:14:10

谢谢。HOA其实就是小政府,难道小政府就可以胡作非为? -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (90 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:20:12

TOO NAIVE -SunshineInCA- 给 SunshineInCA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:21:38

well, they have to adhere the HOA rules... -美蓝海- 给 美蓝海 发送悄悄话 美蓝海 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:23:31

that is what I think, and that's why I want to appear again, -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:57:25

回复:谢谢。HOA其实就是小政府,难道小政府就可以胡作非为? -thousanddollarbill- 给 thousanddollarbill 发送悄悄话 (150 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:24:05

上次已经沟通一次,由于准备不充分,加上manager 捣蛋,给全部否决了。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (222 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:56:24

这位是高手,多听他的吧。 -10things- 给 10things 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:24:52

-左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:56:08

你要和管理者建立良好的私人关系 -SunshineInCA- 给 SunshineInCA 发送悄悄话 (1006 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:16:31

谢谢。很好,长见识。我在想,要不要先把这封信寄给HOA Board member? -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (42 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:23:00

说实话,你这信写的也不是很有说服力。HOA不是那么好对付的。 -10things- 给 10things 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:22:09

any suggestion? Thanks. -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:23:31

the only way to win HOA is... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (69 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:41:45

Thanks, But that's very time comsuming -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 14:50:52

退一步来说多去那里走动,我第一次去那里走动的时候见到了 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (600 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:02:13

领教了。看来还是要拉关系呀!但是平常也很难见到chairman,. -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:08:55

haha, only influence the decision makers... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (17 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:20:33

deal with fact, not the person. -planotx- 给 planotx 发送悄悄话 (516 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:36:20

谢谢。我已经非常低微的跟这个 manager 谈过。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (213 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:52:28

可以找那个manager谈谈,和她解释一下,关键是让她感觉你主动 -jessefan- 给 jessefan 发送悄悄话 (80 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:44:23

谢谢。我已经非常低微的跟这个 manager 谈过。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (113 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 15:54:22

我怀疑有的HOA的late fees 或罚款被经理私吞,因为罚的太随意了。我 -jessefan- 给 jessefan 发送悄悄话 (298 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 16:26:21

还有这事呀?看来美国也是无奇不有。我要问一下。谢谢提醒 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 16:43:01

我对HOA一般没什么好印象。里面的经理做这种事,我也不会觉得奇怪。 -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (839 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 17:13:37

你挺果断,佩服。你就不怕他把你家弄坏了? -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (61 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 17:41:39

前怕狼后怕虎的,还怎么做人? -texastrader- 给 texastrader 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 17:52:30

作的好,这种吃里爬外的房客哪能留啊。房东就得像你这样对 -jessefan- 给 jessefan 发送悄悄话 (183 bytes) () 08/15/2011 postreply 06:10:54

昨天查过她们的financial report, 罚款和late fees 都是收入的一部分。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (81 bytes) () 08/15/2011 postreply 10:40:12

你要有足够的证据才能告。他们找毛病是正常的,开会一定要去! -x潇潇- 给 x潇潇 发送悄悄话 x潇潇 的博客首页 (141 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 17:34:22

我现在写信就是为了去开会,要把问题处理了。否则罚款会没完没了的。谢谢。 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (37 bytes) () 08/14/2011 postreply 17:45:58

看得着急,怎么这里的人都这么软弱?不了解美国人的特性?同意texastrader朋友的做法 -每天都是好晴天- 给 每天都是好晴天 发送悄悄话 (314 bytes) () 08/15/2011 postreply 04:51:05

你很低微地和那个经理谈。低微,在国内行得通,美国人不吃这套 -每天都是好晴天- 给 每天都是好晴天 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/15/2011 postreply 05:09:21

我贴出来的不是信的全部,中间的那部分就是把罚款单按时间顺序一一列出 -左右为难a- 给 左右为难a 发送悄悄话 左右为难a 的博客首页 (268 bytes) () 08/15/2011 postreply 10:04:31

几点建议 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 (2017 bytes) () 08/17/2011 postreply 11:03:46

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