且不说在已知的电池技术下,纯电车商业化本来就是个跟骗局差不多的东西。
整个新能源产业,无论从产能还是储能,效率都还远不能达到传统能源的水平。
且不说在已知的电池技术下,纯电车商业化本来就是个跟骗局差不多的东西。
整个新能源产业,无论从产能还是储能,效率都还远不能达到传统能源的水平。
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这主要是为了忽悠。
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07/01/2011 postreply
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忽悠成功了,降低了能耗,掙到了錢就行.
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:34:22
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各种听说石油公司hoard 真正有价值的新能源开发计划
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07/01/2011 postreply
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70年代石油公司高过一阵新能源,后来全砍了。
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07/01/2011 postreply
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就算好也是直接锁保险柜了。干嘛自己和自己竞争呢,是吧。
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16:39:12
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at early stage of a new technology, there will be problems
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15:30:11
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what is the fuel source of the BYD battery? And where is the sou
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well, electricity is cheaper than fussil fuel, everything includ
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:41:18
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depends。currently most eletricity is from fossil fuel.
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:48:59
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I should have said oil instead of fussil fuel
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:55:56
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depends on the energy convert efficiency
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:49:45
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did I say everything included/considered?
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07/01/2011 postreply
15:57:17
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coal fired station energy conversion is 30%.
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07/01/2011 postreply
16:05:29
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看楼下akm的回帖。电池的能耗是恐怖的。降解是漫长需要安全考量的。
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"恐怖的", what does it mean really in a scientific or commerical wa
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07/01/2011 postreply
21:30:27
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BYD 的批量质量控制据传有问题。手机电池上没所谓的一些指标,在汽车电池上是致命的。
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07/01/2011 postreply
16:14:15
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楼下的总结一下,电池车的能耗需要把生产和处理电池的能耗也计算进去,比较才能公平。
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07/01/2011 postreply
16:18:23
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that is right in theory, but not many people in real world
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07/01/2011 postreply
21:26:45
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you should not take it granted.
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07/01/2011 postreply
22:04:40
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环保主义者很多时候表现象脑袋进水。大力推节能灯,里面那个水银就不管了。
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that is very true, but in my humble opinions, electrical cars a
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According to a Laerence Livermore National Lab study,
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07/02/2011 postreply
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that is true, a potential business risk.
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