过去的一年,2010年没有收入上限的 Roth IRA conversion 是各个理财杂志、financial adviser 们热衷的话题。终于盼到这一天了!俺们这些被排斥在 Roth IRA 门外多年的筒子们个个摩拳擦掌,跃跃欲试。因为 Traditional IRA 转换 Roth IRA 要补交税:增长部分的税和本金部分的税。俺早就计划好了,如果只转税后钱买的IRA,因为现在股市仍旧低靡,增长部分应该为负数,无税可交;本金部分本来就是税后银子,也不必缴税。这不是不转白不转,啥是?
今天一早阳光灿烂,是个好日子,电话打到 Vanguard:“俺要转 Roth!" 没想到,人家一盆冷水泼下来:要缴税!
原来转换时,是要将所有的IRA(税前税后)统统加起来算税的。比如:总共有10万IRA,其中9万税前,1万税后。转换1万税后的,是总共IRA的10%,那9千要交income tax. 闹了半天,空欢喜一场。哼,真是应了这句话:in this world nothing is certain but death and taxes。
今年的 Roth IRA conversion is a joke!
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                    Congrats. You're a high earner
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                    回复:今年的 Roth IRA conversion is a joke!
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                    If all your IRA is after tax money, you don't need to pay tax on
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                    之前为啥用税后钱买IRA?
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                    因为放满了401K,就放了一些在
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                    还是不懂耶.
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                    税后IRA有啥益处呢?
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                    Roth IRA,it grows tax free.
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                    噢, I know Roth IRA.  却不知
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                    税后IRA不是Roth IRA, 是 non-deductible traditional IRA
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                    拿出来付学费、买房有 Penalty 吗?
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                    符合一定条件就没有penalty了
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                    non-deductible T-IRA只是税后IRA的一种
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                    我也没读懂。
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                    看上面的回答
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                    Ira和529,我都没有。
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                    好,省多少事啊。
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                    另外一个教训是
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                    回复:另外一个教训是
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                    the benefit is you can convert all your after tax IRA
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                    不是增长部分还是要付税的吗?
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                    负增长就不要付税啦
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                    IRA和401K一回是吗? 不都是税前的吗?
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                    IRA和401K不是一回事!
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                    Just a  kind reminder in case you don;t know.
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                    谢谢朝三暮四。
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                    thanks! AGI limit probably means
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                    need to double check on it.  thanks, though.
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                    如果你还有401K的话,把税前的T-IRA转到401K里面去
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                    谢谢。
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                    You could, but I am not sure
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                    好象按要求分开Account就可以。
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                    我都是分开的Account啊
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                    回复:我都是分开的Account啊
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                    回复:回复:我都是分开的Account啊
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                    如果Vanguard不行,
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                    刚刚问了Schwab, 也不行。Schwab 推荐
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                    有地儿转就不错了,还嫌麻烦
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                    现在公司也都改进了,flex spending 与
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                    有的挂,有的不挂,过两个月了又来要发票,上哪儿找呀
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                    可是问题是大部分公司的401K是只进不出的,
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                    401K contribution 不行,转进来的IRA可以随时转出去
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                    好像两个都不行哎。 :(
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                    check with your 401K. Mine can roll in and roll out IRA
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                    Vanguard没错的。
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                    回复:Vanguard没错的。
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                    只算T-IRA的assets
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                    回复:只算T-IRA的assets
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                    是一个人所有T-IRA assets,至于那些能转那些不能,我就不知道了
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                    从sunskitehomes Post的IRC看,
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