关于 SS 税

楼下"北回归线的阳光" 的关于 SS 税的帖子其实是对的。

以下是我的计算。
I assume 28% highest tax bracket for your family.  Note:  This is your highest tax bracket, not the effective tax bracket. For most of the engineers, 28% is reasonable.

I also assume that your combined SS benefit is around $53K.


Here is how much the additional tax caused by SS benefit.
If you got 64K in other income, 85% of SS is taxed. (pay $12600 for SS benefit alone)/This is the maximum tax you can pay  on SSN benefit
If you got 60K in other income, 80% of SS is taxed. (pay $11795 for SS benefit alone)   ($2380 more than line below)
If you got 50K in other income, 63.4% of SS is taxed. (pay $9415 for SS benefit alone)
If you got 40K in other income, 47.4.4% of SS is taxed. (pay $7035 for SS benefit alone)
If you got 30K in other income, 31.4% of SS is taxed. (pay $4655 for SS benefit alone)
If you got 20K in other income, 15.3% of SS is taxed. (pay $2275 for SS benefit alone)
If you got 10K in other income, 4.2% of SS is taxed. (pay $630 for SS benefit alone)
If you got 00 in other income, 0% of SS is taxed. (pay $0 for SS benefit alone)

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This means: For extra $60K income (other than SS benefit), you're going to not only pay 28% income tax on that, you will also have to pay additional $11795 on your SS benefit.  This means your effective tax rate for the additional $60K income is 28%+ 19.65%= 48%.   

Or in another word, for the additional $60K income, you can only keep $32K.

 

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是不是能这么理解,因为怕多交税,就别去赚太多的钱? -hhtt- 给 hhtt 发送悄悄话 hhtt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:23:00

一针见血。过去老板要我加班,不想做,就用税率高为借口, -上海大男人- 给 上海大男人 发送悄悄话 上海大男人 的博客首页 (76 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:32:09

一笔糊涂账。两口子W2挣12万总共交的税也不到三万(包括FICA) -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:26:52

Prove me wrong. -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (751 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:40:14

SSI+22000 是不用交税的。你算算9000/(60000-22000)= ?啊哈哈哈哈 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:50:22

what are you talking about. -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (68 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:52:16

是你认识不到本质,你的60000退休金超出22000部分四分之一交了税,还辩护,啊哈哈哈 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:00:40

最后税单是9000元,除以60000也只有16%。 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (489 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:43:06

再看一下我上面的算式,不信你真不明白 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:21:15

(SSI+22000 是不用交税的) 从何说起 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (1732 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:35:08

从事实说起 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:53:56

你算的是对的,关键是这里都是有钱人,other income -春风鸟语花香- 给 春风鸟语花香 发送悄悄话 春风鸟语花香 的博客首页 (250 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:51:24

我不管有钱人,我只针对楼主的计算。 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:53:30

柠檬的算法,我能follow. 工作中佩服这样的同事 -快乐的长耳朵- 给 快乐的长耳朵 发送悄悄话 (68 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:37:51

谢谢柠檬的解答,一直用TurboTax,已经对AGI,Deduction,etc 麻木了 -等明天- 给 等明天 发送悄悄话 (44 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 12:17:03

Where you are wrong -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (3380 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:48:37

不懂税收的人,会盲目地要求减税,最后导致国家赤字。 -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:51:08

他们把不该被收税的SSI+22000也计入,税率就低了。要算其余部分实际税率 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:55:32

What the heck is "其余部分实际税率" -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (202 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:08:17

社保金加22000不用上税,超出这个部分的钱收税四分之一到一半,懂了吗 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:12:29

柠檬椰子汁is right. OP needs to consider Fed tax bracket. -crz1- 给 crz1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 09:54:58

I agree that I used a lot assumptions in my calculation -newbigman- 给 newbigman 发送悄悄话 (1958 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:26:25

税多了可是钱也多了。你这个人只看汽水里面的气泡吗? -柠檬椰子汁- 给 柠檬椰子汁 发送悄悄话 柠檬椰子汁 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:44:08

让你一年有一米的收入但要交税,vs只拿SS那点钱不交税,你难道会选择后者吗? -windyLL- 给 windyLL 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 10:57:32

For brother Windll & 柠檬 -newbigman- 给 newbigman 发送悄悄话 (212 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:08:29

得有higher income再说 -米奇的厨房- 给 米奇的厨房 发送悄悄话 米奇的厨房 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:17:00

You need to be prepared for the "sunny day". -newbigman- 给 newbigman 发送悄悄话 (79 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:24:35

有足够的钱就雇佣厉害的人才帮着规划避税,没有足够的钱就不用担心交税太多。 -米奇的厨房- 给 米奇的厨房 发送悄悄话 米奇的厨房 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 11:36:31

还是这里的人厉害,张口就是百万。俺全家五个劳力三年后总收入才勉强一百万 -北回归线的阳光- 给 北回归线的阳光 发送悄悄话 北回归线的阳光 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 08/17/2022 postreply 12:03:14

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