这个是在反对 AA 的律师质问下,美国最高法院的大法官拍案定义的范畴。

本帖于 2016-10-23 07:23:36 时间, 由普通用户 Derrick_Liu 编辑

Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, in her pro-AA opinion in Grutter v. Bollinger (2003), famously stated that “We expect that 25 years from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary to further the interest [in student body diversity] approved today.”

When affirmative action should end, we’ll all know it should end.

Only a generation ago for many of us, the idea of someone being a doctor or lawyer wasn’t realistic; it was an almost completely alien idea for our parents and an almost a complete uncertainty for our grandparents. Diversity is codeword now for affirmative action, but it’s more than that. It’s often mocked, but it’s an ideal that a truly free country, the people at the top will match the people in society. If that discrepancy isn’t fixed, it’s a clear stain on the idea that all men are created equal. How can we as a people proclaim that America is free land of equal opportunity if people of darker skin are continually worse economically and socially?

换种说法就是:当华人为名牌大学里面,华男不够多而愤慨的时候,也可以想想:为什么大法官里面还没有华裔?为什么五星上将里面还没有华裔?为什么CEO里面还很少有华裔?而即使增加名校里面华男的比例,是否会改变 the people at the top 的构成?到底是哪个比例增多,更公平?At the top, which skin color is the most dominant one and a synonym for "success"?

至于为什么仅限于高等教育和政府合同,可以看下面一个著名案例:

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/3334578.html?

 

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did not see the key word "higher education". Also, 2003+25=2028. -燕京十景- 给 燕京十景 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:14:08

that's 10 years from now. Do you honestly think it will end by t -燕京十景- 给 燕京十景 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:16:27

我不是美国人也没在美国工作过。不知本坛关于大公司AA是否空穴来风。差了查似乎微软脸书之类还没划归高教类, 如果是请指正。 -_学无止境- 给 _学无止境 发送悄悄话 _学无止境 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:15:02

Private companies can voluntarily do anything they want LAWFULLY -Derrick_Liu- 给 Derrick_Liu 发送悄悄话 Derrick_Liu 的博客首页 (262 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:26:19

就是说美国种族歧视不违法,美国高科技公司亚裔占40%以上,科技部门甚至过半,他们不面临压力不会自断臂膀 -_学无止境- 给 _学无止境 发送悄悄话 _学无止境 的博客首页 (331 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:44:31

从性别上讲,高科技不适合女性,这种需要严格逻辑枯燥的行业根本不是女性能忍受的,更别提享受了 -_学无止境- 给 _学无止境 发送悄悄话 _学无止境 的博客首页 (306 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 06:14:33

从学识上看,美国政治的确不适合华裔,这种需要统筹规划、有大局观的行业不是华裔能忍受的,更别提享受了 -Derrick_Liu- 给 Derrick_Liu 发送悄悄话 Derrick_Liu 的博客首页 (515 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 06:49:47

我说得是有根据的,没人能有证据反驳,你说的纯属生搬硬套,就统筹和大局观,现今中国的建设格局不是美国能比的,说实话 -_学无止境- 给 _学无止境 发送悄悄话 _学无止境 的博客首页 (128 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 07:20:27

理论上讲公司, 私立学校可以不用理会, 实际上政府会用funding and contracts利诱, 税收找茬, 舆论施压。手 -燕京十景- 给 燕京十景 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:36:04

那你支持钱都给政府控制不是跟自己过不去吗? -tibuko- 给 tibuko 发送悄悄话 tibuko 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/23/2016 postreply 05:38:03

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