从一个林不粉(或林粉黑)的转变看小林的进步

ClutchFans上的Clutch是网站的创始人和管理员。众所周知,虽然不好说他是林黑,但是他显然绝不是个林粉。

昨天的比赛之后,偶然发现他的态度好像有些改变。现在摘几个他最近的帖子,大家可以自己做出判断。联系到小林最近才有机会打自己的篮球,不少”真球迷“抱怨说,林粉们在这几场球以后又疯狂了。莫非Clutch也像板凳一样,是个骨子里的真林粉?再联想到不少去年这个时候还百般贬低小林的网友,现在也幡然悔过,以林粉的面目出现,不禁想到(当然不能用信仰说话,否则又不知被扣上什么帽子),老祖宗说的,冥冥之中自有天意。

下面是Clutch最近的一些帖子:

这是Clutch在3月18日有意转贴了一个引起极大争议的帖子“[CultureMap] Jeremy Lin shackeling hurts the Rockets: Almost treated with Tim Tebow disdain”后评论所谓“林粉”的帖子,及网友的回帖,这也是我第一次接触到“林粉黑”这个概念。

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CultureMap is really more of a social scene/fine art website, though they did have the first article with quotes from Calvin Murphy that leaked that he would be back with the broadcast. That's a paid sports editor who wrote that. It's not BleacherReport, though after asking around, they have a pretty bad rep as a social rag. This particular "editorial" just happens to be lower than BleacherReport quality.

I don't think many fully grasp just how bad this thing is. I was laughing almost the entire time I read it. It's alarming (though not surprising) how many people think it's spot on in the comments. Even more funny are the "well researched" or "excellent analysis" responses. We're talking about a massive amount of low basketball IQ fans here... fans who don't actually watch the games.

But aren't BB IQ "fans" kind of a subjective item? No offense Clutch but some peeps stated that playing Beverly meant no drop off in Defense and only slightly in offense. Every stat shown sideways shows that Lin is a superior defender, one of two of the best on the team and his offense, though he struggles from time to time, is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Beverly's.

What I find more hilarious is the wanton nature by many on this board, mostly the older posters, who for some reason are blinded by such hate for a certain type of poster on this board, to actually wish a player on the Rockets to suck. Last I checked that's kind of the pot calling the kettle black. Older posters hate on "LOFs" for being a fan of one player over team. Yet by wishing Lin to suck more, doesn't this inherently infringe on the "TEAMS" success? I mean it reeks of hypocrisy.

Blinded by hate for the fans of a player, we immediately have to hate on the player. Nice.

I mean I guess nice find on this article that you so completely disagree with. 


Hate to tell you man. You come up short on this one.

在这之后,拉登哥受伤了,在我火赢了快船之后,CF上有个“certified troll”贴出了“Are the Rockets better without Harden?”,说到“We cruised by one of the best teams in the league without him -- maybe it's time to consider having him come off the bench”。

奇怪的是,Clutch并没有删除这个惹事的“troll”,至今还在第一页挂着,已经有近3万个点击,500多个回帖,26页,而且讨论越来越趋于理性。

更有甚者,昨天赛后,CF出现了另一个,“certified troll”?“ Jeremy Lin with Rockets > Jeremy Lin with Knicks ”,

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Sorry,
there's no poll. There doesn't need to be.

He's just a better player with the Rockets. Tonight was a great example.

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Clutch在第13楼,跟了这样一个帖子:

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Strange. Calvin Murphy just said this exact same thing. Said Calvin in the postgame:

"Right now, I feel he's playing much better basketball here in Houston than he did when he was in New York when they had Linmania. It was a fluke of nature what he was doing during that short span of time. What he's doing now is he's a legitimate ballplayer in all sense of the word, quarterbacking the team, helping out, hustling around defensively. So I think he's a much better ballplayer than he was in New York, but then again, you're in New York, where they blow things up sky high when it's going well."

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真心的希望小林在我火取得成功?显然,这与通过”黑“林粉而”黑“小林的身份不符。

不是我不明白,这个世界变化快。

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慢慢看吧,一两个帖子不说明问题。不过最近clutch 上传了 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (65 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:08:53

There is Lin highlight after every single game, -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (472 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:22:36

我贴里是在说 clutch 上传了小林的精彩 play 呀?难道你不同意? -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:27:36

我同意的,就是提醒一下这是每场比赛后都有的。 -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (194 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:30:31

以前clutch上小林的比赛片段都是其他人传上,最近clutch本人 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (71 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:34:47

这里是clutch 昨天上传的小林“dance” ,,, -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (124 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:24:26

这个可以算小林最精彩的move 之一,和在纽约时对Lakers -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (34 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:29:39

再传一个类似的 -马马甲甲- 给 马马甲甲 发送悄悄话 (86 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:11:45

看不见你的照片?是照片吗? -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:22:28

这是动图林克:http://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201304/06/13652288042 -马马甲甲- 给 马马甲甲 发送悄悄话 (145 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:41:22

这个动作是探戈. :)) 对老鱼那个360度转身. 没晕, 还能找到篮筐在哪 -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:15:35

咱就等着板凳的转变:) -Redcheetah- 给 Redcheetah 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:11:45

板凳心里早就是林密,他就是要和推妈林粉斗闷子。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:15:14

你高估板凳的幽默感了。 -gushen- 给 gushen 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:16:28

没关系,板凳实在闹得慌,推妈们一起修理他。量他也 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (24 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:39:21

板凳老狡猾狡猾地,你看昨天形势一不妙老早开溜了,想砸他连影子也找不到了^_^ -新林迷- 给 新林迷 发送悄悄话 新林迷 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:51:46

如果季后赛火箭对马刺, 这里有热闹看了. 板凳一人挑战我们一大群:)) -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:26:10

那真是激动人心,激动人心啊,希望能成真! -新林迷- 给 新林迷 发送悄悄话 新林迷 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:30:32

肯定坛子里要闹翻了天,好玩,期待,,,可惜不大可能。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:35:47

马刺可能会第二. 现在看火箭第七可能性最大 -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:46:12

好像这个对决有看头,不是因为板凳,而是教课书和横冲直撞的打法。 -talkatwxc- 给 talkatwxc 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:53:47

学习马刺; 刺倒马刺! -Redcheetah- 给 Redcheetah 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 15:53:20

板凳信誓旦旦马刺不会防水,躲避湖人。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:55:12

火箭是underdog肯定的,估计第一场让6分以上,但粉喜欢做的梦就是upset. -talkatwxc- 给 talkatwxc 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 13:02:30

学习马刺; 刺倒马刺! -Redcheetah- 给 Redcheetah 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 15:52:30

Flattering yourself a little bit too much?:) -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (1501 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:18:47

如果你这些话不是借用clutch 里面某人的,俺知道你是谁啦,lol -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:41:28

对号入座,有愿打的,就有愿挨的。记得有句老话,做贼三年,不打自招。 -马马甲甲- 给 马马甲甲 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:44:24

什么意思?我是猜测谁是战专家,如果我猜的正确,他是老clutch了。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:54:07

他曾为姚明在那里战斗,当然是老clutch -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:57:42

你看没看见上边我贴的小林‘dance’?真不错。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:00:02

当然看了. 昨晚第一节没看完, 就睡着了. 第一节只得一分, 以为又要被冰, 今早看见这个数据,好开心 -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:12:05

哈哈哈,谁让你不坚持到最后,missed all the fun -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:16:03

在这里也同样贬过小林。让我想起杨毅。 -马马甲甲- 给 马马甲甲 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:01:48

这撕杨毅, 靠要命发起来的? -Redcheetah- 给 Redcheetah 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 17:41:21

不记得在那里说过完全同样的话,不过这个倒不重要拉:) -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:51:01

既然你是老clutch,你说说那个锡人是咋回事? 总见他没事挑事。 -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:57:16

clutch was definitely a Lin-doubter initially, like many long-ti -gushen- 给 gushen 发送悄悄话 (796 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:00:21

假如我看见一个华人做什么丢脸的事情,我不赞同但不见得会开口, -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (293 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:10:41

太同意了。这也是为什么本ID以前不来从不灌水的,都忍不住经常来敲敲板凳。 -gushen- 给 gushen 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:14:27

我什么时候自称林粉了?我是林黑黑。专让林黑不舒服。嘿嘿。 -gushen- 给 gushen 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 13:55:26

顶W总。 -ctgolfer- 给 ctgolfer 发送悄悄话 ctgolfer 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:15:20

还有战专家对小林是 tough love,推妈对小林是tender love -万绿丛中- 给 万绿丛中 发送悄悄话 万绿丛中 的博客首页 (65 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:21:12

谢谢夸奖,不敢当:) -Warsteiner- 给 Warsteiner 发送悄悄话 Warsteiner 的博客首页 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 12:27:25

对clutch这个创始人, 队员粉太狭隘. 他是火箭粉, 谁为火箭赢球他就支持谁 -Fengweidou- 给 Fengweidou 发送悄悄话 (6 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:22:59

可惜的是,他自己把自己把自己装进去了。要不hak34能说他Blinded by hate for the fans of a p -马马甲甲- 给 马马甲甲 发送悄悄话 (54 bytes) () 04/06/2013 postreply 11:50:48

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