老教授被Bully,求建议。

来源: JasmineZ 2019-11-07 05:38:20 [] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (1525 bytes)

My friend is a tenured full professor. ~70 years old. Working in a state university ranking ~250th. He loves his work of teaching and research. He is in good health and performs at least above average.

He has been given new courses every semester to teach in the past three or four years, which has taken him  time away from  doing research. Yet his chair demands him to meet the milestones in research she set for him. And he got very little or zero salary increase during the past 4 years.

He felt discriminated against. He thought all the tricks his chair has been doing is to force him to retire. He has complained to HR. But the result of HR investigation says, "no evidences of wrong doing" in his Chair's part.  He then took the case to the university president, and the case is about to close.

My friend is fighting for his academic life and reputation. He doesn't want to retire. At the very least, he does not want to be forced to retire with a damaged reputation.

Any suggestions to help him to deal with this situation? Does he need a lawyer to look at his case? What type of lawyer and how to find good lawyer?

Additional information: He is the only tenured, full professor in the department. The majority of the faculty are non-tenure track. He has voiced strong objections to the Chair's attempt to promote and tenure her favorite faculty and hire that faculty's husband.

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江湖险恶,个人的力量是微博的。珍惜生命,远离小人 -julie116- 给 julie116 发送悄悄话 julie116 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 06:33:44

True. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:13:42

Many institutions have Office of the Ombudsperson. Your friend m -苏梅- 给 苏梅 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:31:04

Office of the Ombudsperson有可能会提供一些校外的法律援助的联系人。 -苏梅- 给 苏梅 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:32:46

Ombudsperson?? Can you clarify? -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:15:02

请看进来 -苏梅- 给 苏梅 发送悄悄话 (269 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:48:35

Thanks. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 08:44:39

没有觉得被Bully。他既然选择继续工作就得继续perform,包括教学和研究。得看看对别人的要求是不是一样 -twototango- 给 twototango 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 07:43:35

Hard to compare because he is the only full professor. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (159 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:18:46

同意,如果资历最高那要求相应更高。在公司上班的不是也要一直做新项目吗,很正常呀 -妙妙~- 给 妙妙~ 发送悄悄话 妙妙~ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 16:51:41

他是不是funding 没了? 听说有些终身教授工资什么的 是funding 出,学校加工资的不指望 。 可能不全对,看专业, -Shanghaigirl98- 给 Shanghaigirl98 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 08:00:54

He has some funding. His salary is covered by the state. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (79 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:21:36

最近高校在进行关于ageism 的study,显然,你这个朋友在经历age discrimination。 这是 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (914 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:20:41

如果美国所有大学都是70多岁的赖着不走,也就完蛋了。这个老教授应该想法多做研究,多上课不是他想要的,个人建议 -刁小山- 给 刁小山 发送悄悄话 (92 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:27:20

Many professor decide not to retire at 70. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:33:53

我当然知道,一般都是很牛的(84的都有),或者有些事只有他干得了 -刁小山- 给 刁小山 发送悄悄话 (176 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:35:09

这些人的经验是几十年积累起来的,应该充分利用他们,而不是赶他们走。比如说,做讲座,而不是讲课,为青年 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (104 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:45:38

每个人情况不同,有人80 岁了,仍旧思维敏捷,记忆超群,有的已经痴呆。那个 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (489 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:42:56

Great suggestions. He likes to be active. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:31:17

他是否可以做个关于 phased out retirement 的study。有几个州都在 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (22 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:32:33

Thanks. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:34:53

实际上这么大年纪还老教新课已经是很强的signal了,老教新课就没时间做研究,新课这么大年纪也不一定教得好。Chair很油,做的 -刁小山- 给 刁小山 发送悄悄话 (279 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:24:21

He is one of those people who consider work as life, or least -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (95 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:38:30

这个就没法子了,薄熙来也想当总书记呢 -刁小山- 给 刁小山 发送悄悄话 (38 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:40:57

难得一个人这么执着地追求自己的生活和事业。常说的一句话是,teaching is a way of live rather th -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 (17 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 09:49:30

not sure about that. staying at that position allows him to earn -Smart- 给 Smart 发送悄悄话 (35 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 18:36:52

真的热爱教书育人儿不是爱这个位子的话,可以去社区学校半职的义务劳动帮助很差的那些学生啊? -mickey222- 给 mickey222 发送悄悄话 mickey222 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:42:42

He loves the job and the position. -JasmineZ- 给 JasmineZ 发送悄悄话 JasmineZ 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 02:20:45

it is time to retire. -Smart- 给 Smart 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 13:25:52

Full professor 不做研究,只是教书就没优势!系里也许等有空位了招新的研究方向 -npoaks03橡树- 给 npoaks03橡树 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:02:42

退休吧。位置太少,很多高学历的年青人在等位置。七十岁是到了该退的年令啦。退休金可以维持生活。想继续教学科研,不占位置,系里通常是 -FollowNature- 给 FollowNature 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2019 postreply 17:05:00

70了还不退休?人生苦短啊... -云梦- 给 云梦 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 05:08:00

钱差不多就得了! 70岁退休正好开启新的人生, 健身运动旅游写作想干啥干啥, 非得"死心眼儿"的钻研学术在系里受气啊? -爱吃肉的胖子- 给 爱吃肉的胖子 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:23:03

人老了想法观念等都和周围有断层,该退出职场了 -headshoulder- 给 headshoulder 发送悄悄话 (117 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:24:54

别把宝贵的时光用在与人斗上-无论为己为人,都该退了。 -雾里看花123- 给 雾里看花123 发送悄悄话 雾里看花123 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 11:37:49

该退休了 -Young06120- 给 Young06120 发送悄悄话 (424 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:10:01

天哪,美国大学里面这种人太多了,赖着不走。八十岁都不走的。 -北美平民2015- 给 北美平民2015 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:13:59

退了吧,顺势而退,明智而为。否则,终为输者。这是忠告!!! -胥钧屏- 给 胥钧屏 发送悄悄话 胥钧屏 的博客首页 (104 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:14:05

+1 -VioBal- 给 VioBal 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:16:35

美国大学应该有一刀切制度,否则你看我,我看你,谁也不愿退休。 -北美平民2015- 给 北美平民2015 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:15:39

美国大学的颓拗已经在多方面负面影响科技发展速度,现在已经被越来越多的大学 -胥钧屏- 给 胥钧屏 发送悄悄话 胥钧屏 的博客首页 (458 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:32:30

不太识相的老人太多。当年的邓小平英明,非搞一刀切。 -北美平民2015- 给 北美平民2015 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:19:24

这老教授如果还有research fund 在手里,学校不会急着赶你走,还指望靠他给学校贡献钱呢 -Calab- 给 Calab 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 12:48:01

这个我上面就提出这个问题, funding。。。。。 -Shanghaigirl98- 给 Shanghaigirl98 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 21:02:07

送给这个老教授一句话,惹不起,躲得起。或退休,或调离 -thetruth111- 给 thetruth111 发送悄悄话 (68 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 16:07:56

都活到这把年纪了,还看不开想不通,不明智啊。 -Darma- 给 Darma 发送悄悄话 Darma 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 18:27:36

没看出来有bully, 既然他占着夕里唯一的 tenured full professor的位置,当然应该做相应的贡献。 -xiaomiao- 给 xiaomiao 发送悄悄话 xiaomiao 的博客首页 (279 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 19:29:29

第一不支持糸主任的工作与糸主住对着干,要吗你走人要吗糸主任走人。一个糸是一个团队,自己资格最老本应该支持糸主任的工作,反而对着干 -chongqingguy- 给 chongqingguy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 20:30:52

Funding, where is the funding... No increase of salary is normal -GeorgeInCA- 给 GeorgeInCA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2019 postreply 23:48:23

If you cannot do research ,why not choose to retire? Let younger -street0120003- 给 street0120003 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 03:46:47

Retire, such a thing happens everywhere. No fairness to everyon -瞎扯淡- 给 瞎扯淡 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 04:15:52

真的喜欢做研究,就转成 Emeritus,一样做研究,系里肯定支持,说白了还是money driven -znggg- 给 znggg 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 04:54:33

太普遍了。 -yueli- 给 yueli 发送悄悄话 yueli 的博客首页 (391 bytes) () 11/09/2019 postreply 10:17:51

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