survey #3, Risk Tolerance...

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as I express the my interest of forming a partnership among few forum members three days ago, to handle some bigger projects that maybe beyond one's own reach, we had many discussion on this topic, few had post good, bad, horror experiences on such partnership.

the idea of forming a bonded partnership, has been in my mind for a little while; as I consider myself somewhat successful locally, but I know the main reason I had done well in the pass, half is luck, another half is networking, because I know the area well, from mayor to building inspector to fire marshal, I know them in person. but if I go out of area, I will have no connection, thus I must rely on a strong local person as the project manager.

trust is an expensive commodity, and these type of projects, we are working with people never met in real life, only know of each other sit behind the screen, takes lot more than just money to win someone's trust.

everyone here are smart, highly educated person, but most of everybody, like myself, we just opportunists, not truly business minded.  I had feel I am reaching my bottleneck, both in scale and finance.  to reach a further goal, forming a partnership in national level, make perfect sense to me.

at this point, there is no group project, in the near horizon, the series of survey, just to get a pulse of how everyone feel toward such partnership.

my idea way of company structure will be, an executive board with 5-7 trusted members, which they will study and recommend a project to public, and investors can vote go or no go on that project.

original post.

previous survey #1

previous survey #2

again, we are assuming this project is MFU complex base in TX, approximately cost 1mil. the question is, if you interest in participating, what is your risk tolerance...

1. 0, no interest.

2. 10k

3. 25k

4. 50k

5. 100k.

所有跟帖: 

click here if 1. 0, no interest. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:52:42

click here if 2. 10k -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:09

click here if 3. 25k -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:33

click here if 4. 50k -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:53:53

At this point, I can risk at this level. -naive2- 给 naive2 发送悄悄话 (78 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:09:16

click here if 5. 100k. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:54:14

all comments below. -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 17:54:31

please choose realistically -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (27 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:03:01

先回答我的这个问题, -SunshineInCA- 给 SunshineInCA 发送悄悄话 (193 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 18:37:44

这个不难吧。有一个项目,大家给班长悄悄话,以5万为单位,认购整数个单位。先来先得。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (78 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:41:09

based on current result of the survey, subscription is more -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:27:11

than 2 times of the request, a lottery system is needed :-) -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:30:42

just a few preliminary thoughts in my mind... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (1918 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:13:37

I beleive the project needs to be totally liquidated when finish -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:36:39

not necessary, the ultimate goal is for the holding llc to hold -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (117 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 21:05:19

早期建信誉时,应该如此。 -SunshineInCA- 给 SunshineInCA 发送悄悄话 (41 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 22:23:09

alternatively, at the end of every year -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (144 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:21:12

万事开头难。我一直有这个想法,但是自己没有经验,更没有号召力。 -关键字- 给 关键字 发送悄悄话 关键字 的博客首页 (199 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:04:17

人家家坛建3所希望小学都做到了,我们组织一个盈利性的投资基金都做不到吗? -关键字- 给 关键字 发送悄悄话 关键字 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:07:06

这个不一样吧。家坛那是心情愉快,这个是心生狐疑。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:36:30

What's expected return? -WQPY- 给 WQPY 发送悄悄话 WQPY 的博客首页 (39 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:25:01

in the original post, jy101 proposed to -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (280 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:46:25

大家相信班长的能力和人品, 又有闲钱, 但没闲力的人, 应该是不戳的投资。 -xpk2011- 给 xpk2011 发送悄悄话 (101 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 19:57:45

it = asking " How much $$$$$ you have ?" at a public forum. -说事- 给 说事 发送悄悄话 说事 的博客首页 (30 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 08:27:31

咱英文有限,谁解析一下这个Risk Tolerance是 -如山- 给 如山 发送悄悄话 如山 的博客首页 (45 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:03:11

both actually, the amount you are willing to invest -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (120 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:09:41

有道理。那就要跟回报的比例和 -如山- 给 如山 发送悄悄话 如山 的博客首页 (75 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:15:15

that's true. SunshineInCA actually raised the same question abo -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (340 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:31:58

仔细研读了一下斑竹的survey #2, decision factor.... -如山- 给 如山 发送悄悄话 如山 的博客首页 (1648 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:12:24

不矛盾 -Cupertino枇杷- 给 Cupertino枇杷 发送悄悄话 (169 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:23:16

这样说,谁能预先承诺呢? -如山- 给 如山 发送悄悄话 如山 的博客首页 (259 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:36:38

You know what a guarantee is. -WQPY- 给 WQPY 发送悄悄话 WQPY 的博客首页 (118 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:39:10

哈哈,是,但不完全。一个好担保文件可以lien到 -如山- 给 如山 发送悄悄话 如山 的博客首页 (31 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:46:24

I guess it is back to the project by project. -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (422 bytes) () 05/01/2012 postreply 20:43:53

5年一个project周期太长。exit plan不好弄。 -HappyWed- 给 HappyWed 发送悄悄话 (165 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 00:04:27

这个问题我早想过了。5年是必需的。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (419 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 00:19:16

Generally speaking, private equity is illiquid and most of time -Jeepster- 给 Jeepster 发送悄悄话 (264 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:11:51

Agree. And it takes time to sell at a good price. -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 07:23:55

这样的话,是不是需要多个project同时进行? -happywed- 给 happywed 发送悄悄话 (123 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 10:32:42

班长说了,计划1000 units,第一个project 40个 units=1米。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 11:37:20

或者是不是直接做flipping的project更容易handle? -HappyWed- 给 HappyWed 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 10:35:21

不是。flipping只能是SFH,each project is small。对大地主们不适合。 -sweetptt- 给 sweetptt 发送悄悄话 sweetptt 的博客首页 (46 bytes) () 05/02/2012 postreply 11:40:18

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