Harvard, The Useless Degree

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2018-12-28 10:10 by Karl Denninger 
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So word now comes that David Hogg, who can't calculate or think his way out of a paper bag (as evidenced by his SAT scores) has been admitted to Harvard -- after being denied at several other colleges due to lack of academic ability.

This is an obvious "social justice" sort of thing, given his political stance.

Harvard used to mean something on a degree.  It doesn't any more.

Of course it's damned expensive, and I'm sure he'll figure out some way to scam that from someone too; maybe some more-wealthy people who get his tuition cost-shifted to them.

The problem with social justice admittance is the same as it is with racial discrimination (so-called affirmative action) admittance.  Once you let someone in who doesn't have the academic chops to do the work at the level the University allegedly represents you have only two options: Let them fail, in which case they flunk out and you're accused of discriminatory conduct or lower the course standards enough so they can pass.

The inevitable choice is the latter which is how you get so-called "computer scientists" out of supposedly good schools who can't program in assembler nor can they accurately model the computing requirements for a given task, taking into account all the various elements required (e.g. storage, memory, CPU, etc.)  It only gets worse at the graduate level when the so-called "thesis" process gets similarly corrupted (can't have all those discrimination students fail at the Masters or PhD level, you see) and thus you have the sort of nonsense that has been repeatedly demonstrated for alleged "graduate" work at that level too.

One need only read Michele Obama's thesis.  Whether you agree with her point of view isn't the salient point of doing so -- we can agree or disagree on the political and sociological observations she makes, and in fact such a debate is interesting on its face.

No, the salient point of reading it is that strictly on a grammatical basis she lacks the ability to produce prose at a level suitable for entrance to a University after four years of being there -- and despite this she was awarded a degree.

In other words Princeton's degrees do not provide evidence of the ability to write at a 12th Grade High School level.

So how in the Hell did she get into Harvard and stay there without flunking out if she couldn't write a Senior Undergraduate thesis sufficient to pass muster as a long-form essay in High School?

I would have failed High School Senior English with grammar, sentence and paragraph construction as poor as that thesis displays.  In fact I doubt I would have even bothered with taking the final exam since by that point the screaming "F" would have long since moved beyond the "recoverable" point irrespective of how well I did on said final.

Incidentally while I can't find Michele's (or Barack's) LSAT scores Harvard obviously didn't care about those or Michele's terrible ability to write.

Then again being able to actually write coherent paragraphs of prose isn't a requirement for a lawyer, is it?

Hogg's admission to Harvard on an obvious "social justice" basis can't corrupt Harvard; that already happened at least 30 years ago.

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米歇尔的毕业论文网上有公开吗?好奇。不过她现在还是挺能说的。 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:05:38

这两夫妻都挺会读的。有名有钱就可以雇人写了 -二意三心- 给 二意三心 发送悄悄话 二意三心 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:15:24

这里有 -千里一盏灯- 给 千里一盏灯 发送悄悄话 千里一盏灯 的博客首页 千里一盏灯 的个人群组 (323 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:53:50

打开了第一部分,没看太懂。不懂社会学的研究方法。好像也没看到语法错。反正比我强 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:03:35

看看高晓松对清华高材生的无情贬薄吧,名校不是技校。 -ctrls- 给 ctrls 发送悄悄话 ctrls 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:27:25

奥巴马太太是普林斯顿的本科毕业,她的论文太差,不是应该质疑普林斯顿吗? -MMMMM06- 给 MMMMM06 发送悄悄话 MMMMM06 的博客首页 MMMMM06 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:42:04

那文章说的是大学不敢不让AA学生毕业。不知道米歇尔具体情况。 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:49:48

学校每个专业有自己的要求,有些专业要求的课程容易。专业和课程难易的差别使有些同一届同学之间完全没有交集 -MMMMM06- 给 MMMMM06 发送悄悄话 MMMMM06 的博客首页 MMMMM06 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:55:00

肯定是。那文章说的是米歇尔毕业论文的基本语法按照12年级学生的要求也不及格。所以我好奇什么地方能看到这论文? -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:57:26

You got it. 文章就是说,名校收AA学生就是毁了名校,因为他/她们的水平很差,又不敢不让他们毕业 -sfbayparent- 给 sfbayparent 发送悄悄话 sfbayparent 的博客首页 sfbayparent 的个人群组 (118 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:40:02

能这样说吗?这种人无论入校还是毕业跟俺们的娃都不是一条道上的,可以说跟俺们的娃木有一点儿关系 -白色非色- 给 白色非色 发送悄悄话 白色非色 的博客首页 白色非色 的个人群组 (316 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:50:54

好奇大学怎么跟教授说? -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:52:57

从历届总统小孩,习帝闺女,到打球的AA的,人家早见多识广了 -白色非色- 给 白色非色 发送悄悄话 白色非色 的博客首页 白色非色 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:01:19

Mr. Hogg 是有dyslexia and ADHD的,academic 标准有点不一样。 -Francine- 给 Francine 发送悄悄话 Francine 的博客首页 Francine 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 09:59:49

如果那样,其实考得很不错了。看了电影Rudy,不知道紫檀父母会如何说,那位从圣母大学毕业的可是连社区大学都不够格的 -白色非色- 给 白色非色 发送悄悄话 白色非色 的博客首页 白色非色 的个人群组 (268 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:06:41

好奇一下,有这些病情的学生,以后工作的时候就都不管这些,不被照顾了? -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:17:20

听说这两种病自己开公司成功的比例非常大 .... 基本上跟爬公司楼梯的不是同一类型的人 -backyardfun- 给 backyardfun 发送悄悄话 backyardfun 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:20:42

说明照顾政策需要进一步完善。 -Francine- 给 Francine 发送悄悄话 Francine 的博客首页 Francine 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 10:39:42

美国名校招生目标---未来有可能对社区/社会有着非常重要的贡献的学生。 -评论2012- 给 评论2012 发送悄悄话 评论2012 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 11:27:49

招生AO就是设法从学生的高中成就,预估学生的未来的潜力和贡献。成绩只是一个重要的部分。 -评论2012- 给 评论2012 发送悄悄话 评论2012 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 11:29:31

奇怪的思维。大学又不是培养科学家工程师的地方。最后研究一下大学的 mission statement, 自然就有答案。 -笑薇.- 给 笑薇. 发送悄悄话 笑薇. 的博客首页 笑薇. 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 12:08:47

那文章里有两个例子,米歇尔和Hogg,都不是工程师科学家的方向 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 greenoasis 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 12:23:27

我並不反对作者的论点 -bashfulx- 给 bashfulx 发送悄悄话 bashfulx 的个人群组 (331 bytes) () 12/28/2018 postreply 13:50:19

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