沃顿本科 class 2015 job placement is just INSANE!

来源: PALandlord 2015-11-07 08:44:47 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (2281 bytes)

看到最近出来的沃顿 Class 2015 Career Report, the job placement from Wharton undergrad this year is absoulutely INSANE!! 今天有点时间,发上来分享一下: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/files/WHA_2015cp.pdf

Highlights:

(1) 被表中列出的公司(至少 hire 4人,大部分都是很好的公司)雇用的毕业生已经接近Class总学生数的一半。这些还基本不包括buyside jobs, 因为这些公司每年招4个人以上的也不多。

(2) 除多数人比较熟悉的Goldman, Morgan Stanley, MBB这些好公司外,更加impressive的是~10% 直接进入PE和HF这些很难进的buyside公司 (这些绝大多数都应该是front office, 也就是investment professionals)。 如果加上Assetment Management (总体来说比HF和PE好进些,但也属于buyside), 总体达到15%! 要知道除了沃顿和哈佛外没有第三所学校能有比较有点规模的buyside placement.

(3) 15个学生进入Blackstone, 4个学生去了KKR, 去这些绝对顶尖的公司的应该比往年都多。

另,前一程子看到几个帖没时间回,比如 关于Wharton undergrad vs. Wharton MBA, 现在唠叨几句。Myself personally, as well as the general consesus I have gathered over the last couple years from a variety of sources would consider the Wharton undergrad being more impressive.  The raw intelligence of the Wharton undergraduates is simply higher then that of the MBA students; the latter with ~60% of student population from less impressive undergraduate colleges (or in other words, they were unable to get into a program of Wharton's caliber when they applied to college).  Someone even said that Wharton undergrads are "extremely sharp, and routinely beat out MBA studenst when they take the same courses."  Many MBA students are trying to switch their careers (so-called career-reset button), because they were not satisfied with their first job.  However, keep in mind that for some of the very top jobs (like HF & PE), it is generally not easy to get them even with a top flight MBA (say, HSW or M7) but without a highly prestigious undergraduate name or prior experience before MBA.

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yes or no. -autumnjune- 给 autumnjune 发送悄悄话 (162 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 08:52:02

So, you think you know STEM students and the STEM fields better -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 08:58:50

did it again; "better than I do?" -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 08:59:38

为什么你认为you know better than she knows -TZX999- 给 TZX999 发送悄悄话 (23 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:20:45

Fair question。。。 -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (462 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 17:34:02

i don't know them better. But when going to details, -autumnjune- 给 autumnjune 发送悄悄话 (605 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:03:46

If you take a closer look at the job placement report, -autumnjune- 给 autumnjune 发送悄悄话 (191 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:35:17

学engineering去Caltech或MIT,为啥要去藤 -cutedolphin- 给 cutedolphin 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:43:56

I am discussing the job placement report PAlandlord referred to -autumnjune- 给 autumnjune 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:45:58

You added some unique perspective from your -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (1777 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 19:42:00

很好很强大:)就是这口气有点hyper,太激动了。 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 08:53:10

Wharton undergrad quality ave ~= "HYPSMC-", -beachlver- 给 beachlver 发送悄悄话 beachlver 的博客首页 (171 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:04:37

Would certainly agree on your assessment. -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 17:45:35

如果藤校找工难谁还去呀? -小团圆- 给 小团圆 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 09:17:05

藤校非职业训练那些专业找工可不一定容易。但是藤校还是不愁生源。绝对地不愁:) -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 10:28:55

美女呀,看来你得加油 -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (230 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 20:02:56

这不应该吗?去年毕业的认识的两孩子(都是ABC)。CMU的直接进buy side。S的去了backend。 -大小兔- 给 大小兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 10:51:54

backend 是做什么的? 什么样的公司? -Michelangelo- 给 Michelangelo 发送悄悄话 Michelangelo 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 11:04:55

Backend -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (219 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 17:36:10

analyst job -大小兔- 给 大小兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:20:31

analyst is front desk -近仁1995- 给 近仁1995 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2015 postreply 00:13:21

investment banks。 -大小兔- 给 大小兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:26:22

请问这两孩子什么专业? -Michelangelo- 给 Michelangelo 发送悄悄话 Michelangelo 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 11:05:44

If CMU undergrad to hedge fund, -PALandlord- 给 PALandlord 发送悄悄话 (203 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 17:42:20

analyst 算sell side ? -Michelangelo- 给 Michelangelo 发送悄悄话 Michelangelo 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:50:52

yes -近仁1995- 给 近仁1995 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2015 postreply 00:13:45

CS 去了trading desk。 Economics/Math 做modeling -大小兔- 给 大小兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:23:04

trading desk 不加班。另一个天天过半夜。两人起薪一样,不知道奖金会如何。起薪和去google的差不多。但是奖金起点花 -大小兔- 给 大小兔 发送悄悄话 (138 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:33:21

trader 压力很大的。做model 在这样的公司里好象没啥地位吧? -Michelangelo- 给 Michelangelo 发送悄悄话 Michelangelo 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 21:52:45

那家你今年。就。。u防。那个防。。 dfnndn f ff的。。。 -pillowcase- 给 pillowcase 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/07/2015 postreply 14:55:10

每年都差不多。Blackstone今年多过往年。 -乱打乒乓胡下棋- 给 乱打乒乓胡下棋 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/08/2015 postreply 07:56:47

What is "buy side"? -huchi99- 给 huchi99 发送悄悄话 huchi99 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/09/2015 postreply 09:30:54

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