当你已经赢了时,能及时撤下战场吗?

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When you have “won” the retirement investing game, why do you keep playing it?

怎么算赢?before you retire, you should have saved 20-25 times the amount of your “residual expenses.”  Residual expenses are measured by the difference between what you will spend each year in retirement and what your guaranteed retirement income (Social Security, pension, and annuity benefits) will provide.
  
比如说你退休后需要每年8万。俩口子的社保金每年4万,那你的residual expenses is $40,000。40000 X 25 = 1百万。如果你已经有了100万的储蓄,那么就该退出股市战场了。
 
William Bernstein, the investing guru says: put money in short term bonds and CD’s. If there is an inflationary shock, interest rates on short duration financial instruments will rise so you can quickly move in to them. Owning TIPS will also help.
你已经赢了吗?如果赢了,下得了决心撤吗?:)

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This is just the same way--4-5% annual withdrawal rate. -一天钓鱼,两天上网- 给 一天钓鱼,两天上网 发送悄悄话 (38 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 12:47:47

10年后你赢了,会撤吗?:) -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 12:49:26

Gradually. Still, inflation is a concern. So leave some in the m -一天钓鱼,两天上网- 给 一天钓鱼,两天上网 发送悄悄话 (144 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 12:53:05

great plan. need a lot self discipline to implement it. -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 12:56:48

^!^. Patience and discipline are two characteristics essential f -一天钓鱼,两天上网- 给 一天钓鱼,两天上网 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:02:09

This is a great question! -ZhangZhouDaTou- 给 ZhangZhouDaTou 发送悄悄话 ZhangZhouDaTou 的博客首页 (611 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 19:04:54

心态啊心态,我其实很佩服老美债多不愁的生活方式。 -圆西瓜- 给 圆西瓜 发送悄悄话 圆西瓜 的博客首页 (90 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:03:02

重要的是,当你知道自己已经赢了的时候 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (34 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:08:40

如果没有孩子的话,我觉的我已经赢了 -圆西瓜- 给 圆西瓜 发送悄悄话 圆西瓜 的博客首页 (61 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:36:23

孩子会长大的 :) -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:39:41

孩子是很好的投资.. 15年后你就知道了.. -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (41 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:49:44

三岁看到老,两孩子健康可爱也聪明, -圆西瓜- 给 圆西瓜 发送悄悄话 圆西瓜 的博客首页 (24 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:52:46

孩子是很重要的投资... 20年后引导他们早开始投资.. -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (94 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:05:03

握手,州立大学也很好, -圆西瓜- 给 圆西瓜 发送悄悄话 圆西瓜 的博客首页 (48 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:18:58

我也这么看的 ... -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (70 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:44:53

its easy to walk out... -jy101- 给 jy101 发送悄悄话 jy101 的博客首页 (36 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:17:07

agree. -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (46 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:21:39

100万, 少点吧? -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (385 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:31:23

based on today's money, based on how much you need to keep your -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (476 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:37:13

http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (211 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:41:58

债卷也是投资 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (41 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:47:39

1973年8万, 等于今天41.6万哪.. -sisbio- 给 sisbio 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:02:41

在股市能赢这么多吗? -宝贝的妈- 给 宝贝的妈 发送悄悄话 宝贝的妈 的博客首页 (21 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:35:15

如阿毛说的,不是靠运气,要靠 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (56 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:38:50

我觉得在股市赢了的,没几个能退出来的。 -宝贝的妈- 给 宝贝的妈 发送悄悄话 宝贝的妈 的博客首页 (29 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:40:10

输光了的,是赌徒。 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (19 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 13:42:29

要想好,撤下来怎么打发日子,更愉快。 -SunshineInCA- 给 SunshineInCA 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:08:57

实际操作起来比较难,需要有战胜贪婪的勇气和智慧。 -DoubleDelight- 给 DoubleDelight 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:16:36

同意 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:17:55

阿毛上面提前5年,每年撤5%股市到债卷的计划不错 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:21:39

好主意,不过最终还是要留小部分在股市上吧,尤其想给子女留点钱。。 -Doubledelight- 给 Doubledelight 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:32:30

When finally US has to fix the debt problem, -LAChinese- 给 LAChinese 发送悄悄话 (484 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:21:08

diversify, some TIPS, some RE...... -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:24:00

要是现在60这么算差不离,要是现在40这么算就不够了。 -赵飞燕- 给 赵飞燕 发送悄悄话 赵飞燕 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 14:57:53

请看上面我回sisbo 的贴。我不是在算多少钱可以退休 -laoyangdelp- 给 laoyangdelp 发送悄悄话 laoyangdelp 的博客首页 (166 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 15:05:56

money never sleep. do the same as wall street. -janeice65- 给 janeice65 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/15/2012 postreply 18:56:04

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