I don't blame you, you are living in a fairy tale

world where there are only two kinds of people - bad and good. the good should go to heaven and the bad should be killed and go to hell. the real world is more multi-facet and I bet you the chances are those three killed also had many acquaintances who would call them their good friends, sons, fathers, mother, grandma... If you could go to their funerals, you would see what I mean. This argument on the forum is to me really a humanity vs. gangsterism. There are just too many dog fights in this world, at some point, one party will come up with a gun to end the fight. It happened in this case the side comes up with a gun is one of us (a Chinese immigrant). We need to fight for all his right as a compatriot, but we don't need to give up civilization for all of us just becaue he killed.