采访张益唐

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2015年我曾电话采访过张益唐,他那时候还是 Professor of Mathematics at University of New Hampshire. Although brief, our conversation left me with the impression that he is a humble and dedicated scientist who does not cease taking new journeys in the area of Number Theory after the receipt of the 2014 MacArthur Award.

高妹: You once disputed the view of mathematicians as geeks who have few connections with the real world. Do you ever feel the need to discuss your projects with your peers?

Dr. Zhang:  I used to spend many hours thinking about mathematics without communicating with other people. To me, the initial exploration of a new problem involves a lot of intuition. You may have some feeling about the possible strategies that could work or the direction it's heading toward, but articulating your thoughts to others can be difficult. The nature of my research determines that I'm not in a business that invites teamwork or benefits from collaborations. A mathematician needs to endure solitude, and I have been avoiding activity that's unlikely to yield a meaningful outcome.

高妹: That's interesting. What you have described sounds almost like artistic creation. What got you interested in the study of twin primes conjecture? How would you summarize its impact?

Dr. Zhang: I have known this conjecture for many years. It is interesting to many people, not only to me. I think it's possible that more hypotheses in this area may stem from my work, but that could take a while and, for now, it's not clear.

高妹: You once said there are other on-going projects you are proud of, but wouldn't want to throw them out yet?

Dr. Zhang: Yes, but it is not easy to describe them right now. All I can say is that they don't quite belong to the same category of the problem I have just solved. And I can't map out a timeline when they might be finished. It could happen one day unexpectedly, just like the last time.

高妹: How does your mind engage in different research topics?

Dr. Zhang: I used to concentrate on one problem, but also try to know what happened to others. To me, there is no boundary that separates work from the rest of my life. When I'm working on a problem, it lingers in my mind all the time.

高妹: In physics, a law doesn't have to be unconditional or universal to be valuable. People constantly bring up new theories that overwrite an old principle or exceed its limit. Is being right or wrong more absolute in mathematics? Do you agree with what Michio Kaku said about God being a mathematician?

Dr. Zhang:  In mathematics the situation might be different. For example, it was Euclid who first proved that there are infinitely many prime numbers. Today we can only say this is true. Although sometimes I do marvel at the exquisite structure of math and its power to explain the physical world, generally I'm not a philosophical person who likes to dwell on the origin or purpose of life.

高妹: If you were given a chance to go back in time and rebuild your career, would you have done anything differently? Did you remain optimistic during the days when things didn't work out?

Dr. Zhang: I might have done something differently, as I have learned many lessons from my academic career. For example, at the beginning, I should have listed all possible methods that could apply to my problem; once I ignored some of them, I wasted time. But I used to be optimistic, as I regarded the difficult time was just the start of a new road.

高妹: You mentioned you don't like the distractions of a large team. Do you plan to recruit students in the near future?

Dr. Zhang: I have been considering this problem, but no decision has been made. In the past few years, I have received several applications from prospective students, most of whom were Chinese. Because those were not full applications but Letters of Interest, with limited mentoring experience, I was uncertain how to judge the qualification of the applicant and whether a match existed.

            Of course, I want my students to eventually become masters of the field, not just qualified graduates who could find jobs. In the past summers, I was invited to spend time in the Chinese Academy of Sciences, where I saw clear talents in their students. I have been interacting and advising a few of them, but a formal relationship is yet to be established.

高妹: I hope something would work out soon. What is your favorite course to teach?

Dr. Zhang: It is hard to say. I love teaching various courses. Giving lectures in a classroom is different from mentoring graduate students. I have more experience with the former but little with the latter.

高妹: Would you like to say something about the western academia and scientists in their early careers?

Dr. Zhang: What the academia here attracts me the most is the freedom to pursue topics we are interest. I'd like to tell the young scientists: if you really love sciences, do not give up easily.

 

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沙发 -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:19:03

I bet his experience provided some comfort to 高妹 years ago -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:34:34

我那时候已经“脱离苦海”了,嘿嘿。某则没有这个闲情逸致去采访别人了 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:10:59

张确实令人佩服。好些年前还有个普林斯顿的教授证明了费马大定理,不过据说其证明有500页长,我都怀疑中间会不会有错 -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:17:16

这个我是不信的 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:21:19

Why not? -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:23:23

我是说我不信500页不知道证明了没有我不太留心数论 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:24:42

我没去看过,但是网上去读了另一个数学家的通信形式的反问,问如果一个证明需要500页的话,那算是证明吗? -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (102 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:29:12

我还记得来美国留学的飞机上第一次从读者上读到费马大定理,后来一次在课堂上问起老师,老师也在普林斯顿呆过,就告诉说刚被证明了!不敢 -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:23:01

高妹和张都政治不正确哈,居然没有把这成绩归功于党和人民的培养 :) -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (245 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:42:13

我说句不怕你们砸的吧辜负了国家是肯定的我们都是 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (56 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:50:52

我不说话 -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:53:10

我也就是在这里说一句啦 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (47 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:54:28

多瑙如果你去国内学术界混几年就知道了,张的这种性格,在国内会被人排挤死。国内混得好的那些“科学家”,都是什么类型的,你也清楚。 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (89 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:09:57

还用他我们都经常说自己在国内会被人吃了连骨头渣都剩不下 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:12:14

扎心了老铁 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:17:36

也没什么啦我从中学就没想着会留在国内 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (92 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:44:37

为什么那时就想着要出国呢?跟你一比我特别古老啊,我是一心想着报效祖国的,不然怎么也学一个能在国外生存的专业了。。。:( -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:53:41

环境嘛大家都说这些 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (107 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:56:42

我觉得也是身处的环境所致。如果不在那个环境里呢,还会自己想到出来吗?这个问题我问过一些人,回答起来其实都挺盲目的。。。 -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (77 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 11:01:05

别人我不能替人回答我应该会 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 11:03:34

你呀,你所说的这个环境,小到什么程度,大到什么程度? -土豆-禾苗- 给 土豆-禾苗 发送悄悄话 土豆-禾苗 的博客首页 (1111 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 17:03:51

觉得到大学以后,尤其工作以后开始动心出国还可以理解,因为已经成年有了自己的世界观。中学还有点早,看到的真相还少。。。你这样说, -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (611 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 18:23:20

让我套用你的句子写个小段子吧, :)) -土豆-禾苗- 给 土豆-禾苗 发送悄悄话 土豆-禾苗 的博客首页 (1449 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 19:39:01

我有个“适合海归的类型”,又是分类文,改天发来(不能发太勤,太扰民了) -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 19:39:31

不扰民呀,明天就来发吧 -糯米粥- 给 糯米粥 发送悄悄话 糯米粥 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 20:10:01

就希望你们多发文,我天天翘首以盼的。。。:) -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 21:08:10

我觉得你写的东西有很多的emotional depth, 根本不是温室里的娇花 -糯米粥- 给 糯米粥 发送悄悄话 糯米粥 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 20:12:23

谢谢糯米,我的确不是温室里的娇花啊。:) -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 21:09:13

他是做数论的当然比较不太合适人多啊那个要自己想的 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (83 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 09:52:49

先赞一个晚上回家看,英文哇呀呀 -望沙- 给 望沙 发送悄悄话 望沙 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:01:31

单论人,是挺实在的一个人。坚持谈何容易,尤其难得出成果的领域,需要非凡的定力。。。 -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:07:56

是的,咱们能看到的,起码最后还出头了。他要是一辈子没出头,那真的是好惨啊 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:17:17

别个梵高百年后也出头了 :) 关于出头,现在就是以recognition 来判别的。忧忧,你来个灵魂深处的判别标准? -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:26:11

哈哈哈,你先来说,灵魂深处怎么判别?:) -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:33:14

我要知道,还问你?你队灵魂有研究也收割了不少灵魂,有发言权 -nearby- 给 nearby 发送悄悄话 nearby 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:34:55

噗,你真把我当成了灵魂修炼者了。。。LOL -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:46:55

他的方向好也不好 -donau- 给 donau 发送悄悄话 donau 的博客首页 (213 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:20:28

好在他在美国,在国内可能真的就淹没了。。。 -尘凡无忧- 给 尘凡无忧 发送悄悄话 尘凡无忧 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 10:32:06

可惜的是美国新一代优秀人才都往华尔街和硅谷跑。肯安心做基础研究的太少了。 -可能成功的P- 给 可能成功的P 发送悄悄话 可能成功的P 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 11:07:00

原因之一也是funding太难拿了 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 12:47:15

手机翻译看完了,只有佩服两个字,双绝,赞 -望沙- 给 望沙 发送悄悄话 望沙 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 11:39:43

又调皮了 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 12:47:27

这句好戳!A mathematician needs to endure solitude, -Anthropologi- 给 Anthropologi 发送悄悄话 Anthropologi 的博客首页 (639 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 15:21:01

So does a writer! 你说得对啊 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 15:42:16

高妹问的这些问题本身就很精彩,都是thought-provoking questions! 谢谢这么有意思的分享! -糯米粥- 给 糯米粥 发送悄悄话 糯米粥 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 17:20:07

嘻嘻,太过奖了 -FionaRawson- 给 FionaRawson 发送悄悄话 FionaRawson 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 17:51:41

张益唐乃真正的奇人. 只做自己喜欢的事,有结庐在人境,全无车马喧的修养。 -雾蒙蒙雨霏霏- 给 雾蒙蒙雨霏霏 发送悄悄话 雾蒙蒙雨霏霏 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/06/2022 postreply 20:59:53

好奇,你那次是代表美国的媒体采访吗?如果不是为啥不直接用中文呢。 -二胡一刀- 给 二胡一刀 发送悄悄话 二胡一刀 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 01/07/2022 postreply 07:55:24

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