燕王, please study what is bond, stocks,

来源: longtermInvestor 2008-10-05 11:03:45 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (1437 bytes)
what is government bond, what is corporate bond,

you really knows nothing about financial, and world politics. Let me point out some thing:

1. Chinese government invests both in corporate bonds and US treasury bill. a big part of corporate bonds are in FRE and FNM. If FRE and FNM bankrupt, default on its bonds, Chinese government gets nothing back, just like current FRE and FNM's share holders, what can China do? Fire nuclear missile? send PLA? US government never guarantee 2F's bond in the writing, I would think if u were US president, u would be so happy that u tricked the whole world to believe that US government backs 2F's debt, but never write it down, now it is the perfect chance to default, right? we never forced those "stupid" Chinese to buy our bonds, right? But US changed corporate bonds into government bonds at crisis, Chinese government 松了一大口气, right?

2. When u buy bond, how can u demand issuer to return your principle at any time? if you can do that, why would people sell bonds? if no body sells bonds, how u get money to build rail way, free way, olympic buildings, ...? if u want your principle (money) back, u can sell your bond on the market, it is your freedom.

You are too ignorant for us to have meaningful conversation, I do not have that much time to teach u basic knowledge. please study more before u open your big mouth, now is not time of “知识越多越反动”

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this is what he said in the post -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (594 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 11:19:57

哈,这个很简单,美国说:“没钱,不还”,不就完了? -Lyra- 给 Lyra 发送悄悄话 Lyra 的博客首页 (60 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:56:29

let me tell u sth even more surprising, -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (2351 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 11:52:09

forgot to ask 燕王, after reading above post, who is -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (35 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:02:10

你说呢?大家都想听你说出来 -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (2 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:11:46

of course, it is US, is that u want to classify -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (24 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:21:22

Please let Mr. Paulson know that he should -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (49 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:23:55

haha -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (504 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 11:52:11

well, it would be a disaster if China sells its bond -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (503 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:08:06

回复:你终于明白 -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (92 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:14:52

I am done debating with u, you are starting -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (166 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:24:47

你草鸡了吧! -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (94 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:29:54

u r welcome to say what u say, life is not about -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (92 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:55:39

if I am lucky, I may retire after this crisis, that is -longtermInvestor- 给 longtermInvestor 发送悄悄话 (12 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:59:15

口气不小啊 -伯南柯- 给 伯南柯 发送悄悄话 (60 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:29:05

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你们在这儿称王称帝的 -伯南柯- 给 伯南柯 发送悄悄话 (24 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:37:40

您老咋还不减息,弄个零利率玩玩? -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (116 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 12:43:36

啥招都会用上的,只要能阻止事态恶化 -伯南柯- 给 伯南柯 发送悄悄话 (72 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 13:05:13

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回复,又一个显微镜经济学家,看把你牛的 -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (328 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 16:57:57

If China becomes a hostile country to US, will US -729418- 给 729418 发送悄悄话 729418 的博客首页 (117 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 21:53:00

回复:燕王, please study what is bond, stocks, -nj_guy- 给 nj_guy 发送悄悄话 nj_guy 的博客首页 (418 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 16:23:44

笨蛋 -燕王- 给 燕王 发送悄悄话 燕王 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 17:03:49

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Is longterminvestor = Miat42 -daysofreckoning- 给 daysofreckoning 发送悄悄话 (38 bytes) () 10/05/2008 postreply 20:06:02

No, different person :) -miat42- 给 miat42 发送悄悄话 miat42 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 10/06/2008 postreply 08:31:55

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