问了下GPT 美国民间如何看 Y vs P

这个略有surpise, 印象中 Y和P 脚碰脚。 但GPT说  P 要强一丢丢

但“Princeton is often seen as more academically elite, while Yale is seen as more culturally elite”  -  这话没毛病

看来 Y的T5 老五位置坐稳了。

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In the layman world of the U.S., Princeton and Yale are both seen as ultra-prestigious, but Princeton is often regarded slightly higher — especially when it comes to perceptions of intelligence, academic excellence, and exclusivity.

Here’s how the general public tends to compare them:


???? Princeton University:

  • Layman Perception: “Super elite, super smart, super hard to get into.”

  • Reputation: Known for being intellectually rigorous, especially in math, physics, economics, and philosophy.

  • Vibe: Quietly brilliant. Not flashy, but incredibly respected.

  • Fields Associated: Academia, economics, mathematics, theoretical sciences, public policy.

  • Cultural Role: Viewed as the most “academic” Ivy, with a very high-achieving but less-public-facing image.


Yale University:

  • Layman Perception: “Elite, prestigious, maybe artsy or political.”

  • Reputation: Known for law, politics, humanities, and the arts.

  • Vibe: Classy, intellectual, culturally rich — but not necessarily as academically intense as Princeton.

  • Fields Associated: Law, drama, literature, political leadership.

  • Cultural Role: Often associated with old money, secret societies (Skull and Bones), and the Ivy League mystique.


Layman Comparison:

Category Perceived Winner
Overall prestige Princeton (slightly)
Name recognition Roughly equal
Raw intelligence / academics Princeton
Law, politics, arts Yale
Social elitism / old money Yale
STEM / Theoretical fields Princeton
Presidential legacy Yale (Bushes, Clintons attended)

Summary:

Among laypeople, Princeton is often seen as more academically elite, while Yale is seen as more culturally elite.

So:

  • Princeton = “Smartest of the Ivies.” Quiet prestige, academic excellence, very hard to get into.

  • Yale = “Elite and influential.” A bit more visible in pop culture, especially in politics and the arts.


Verdict:

In terms of perceived prestige among the general public, Princeton usually edges out Yale, though both are solidly in the top tier of U.S. universities.
If someone says they went to either, the reaction will be “Wow!” — but Princeton might get a slight extra nod for being the most academically intense Ivy.

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P发音太拗口,电视里一般说h, Yale,来代表top ivy:) -onward- 给 onward 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 08:54:06

其实不用问东问西的,只要稍加留意,心中自有定论。 -BeagleDog- 给 BeagleDog 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:00:34

其实P -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (195 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:02:24

P应该是T10 的守门员, 配不上T5 -shaojianolian- 给 shaojianolian 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:54:34

Y以前是最蓝的,甚至砍了自己的工学院;P因为IAS收留过一些落难天才 -米汤- 给 米汤 发送悄悄话 米汤 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:03:12

Y停了工程是最没眼光的决定。IAS让P大粘光了,虽然两者没有正式关系。 -youtub- 给 youtub 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:17:23

IAS 和P是独立的,但不少IAS研究员在P带研究生,比如witten在P的研究生大多在一流大学任教职。 -quantnj- 给 quantnj 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:53:38

我喜欢P, 女儿选了Y -nice898- 给 nice898 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:11:03

Y对一年级学生照顾得无微不至, 不知道P是怎样的 -nice898- 给 nice898 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:12:38

咋无微不至啊? -成功的米菲兔- 给 成功的米菲兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:19:02

辅导员制度, 单间宿舍,几人一组,。。。。。。 -nice898- 给 nice898 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:26:35

有名的residential college? -onward- 给 onward 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:32:06

家里有其他 IVY 的孩子, 对比很强烈 :) -nice898- 给 nice898 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:35:02

应该差不多 -米汤- 给 米汤 发送悄悄话 米汤 的博客首页 (201 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:19:48

学校关系不是很大。比如现在YC里面什么学校都有,再后来就更没差别了。 -onward- 给 onward 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:28:42

Yale NLP 相比P落后很多,对大部分人没差别,对个别人差别大 -米汤- 给 米汤 发送悄悄话 米汤 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:39:15

这个对研究生影响多一些吧。一个学校不可能所有专业都强。 -onward- 给 onward 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:43:10

Y不少专业有+CS,在本科课程安排上还是很上心的。 -youtub- 给 youtub 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 11:14:33

P 好像压力大一些 -nice898- 给 nice898 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:31:41

Y和P对学生的投入都是比较多的。P前两年导师制,一个管10个左右。后两年论文导师。 -quantnj- 给 quantnj 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:57:57

老百姓的想法: 王子当然比哑佬高贵! -wlwt123- 给 wlwt123 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 09:41:00

Y和P本科风格差不多。学生成份有些不同,P的stem占50%左右,Y大约1/3.Y的人文艺术专业学生多一些。 -quantnj- 给 quantnj 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:01:40

HPY三个学校我最喜欢P。 这个学校看着还算正经能学到东西。 Y太偏科。 H我就不说了。 -24桥明月夜- 给 24桥明月夜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:17:00

Y 的理工科和 P 不在同一级别,当然文科 Y 更好 -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 10:56:00

Y和P没法对比 -seasnowman- 给 seasnowman 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 12:09:00

娃當初參觀了Y&P他就決定早申Y.Y早申收了後就沒申P. 娃對P沒興趣. -忘東忘西- 给 忘東忘西 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 22:12:55

碰到過兩位神經外科醫師. 男的P本科. 女的Y本科,女的還是Y history major畢業的. 女的技術好些. 本科 -忘東忘西- 给 忘東忘西 发送悄悄话 (42 bytes) () 09/29/2025 postreply 22:25:14

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