走学术道路不容易。。

本帖于 2025-02-03 18:36:51 时间, 由普通用户 borisg 编辑

走学术道路不容易。。

看这个国内来的在这里念了学位又做了POSTDOC。US念数学的一年毕业大概2000博士(不包括国外来找工作的),教职只有300个。

这孩子到处求助.

It’s my first time posting on this platform and I want to share some of my honest thoughts on the tenure-track market in the applied mathematics area this year. As a current (first-round) Postdoc who finished my PhD in 2022 and who is about to finish my 3-year fixed-term Postdoc contract at my current institution, so far I have 9 published papers, 1 recently accepted paper, plus 6 other pre-prints (or say submitted papers); Among these papers only 5 of them contain my Ph.D advisor’s name and all other papers are all based on collaborations with other people (during my current Postdoc position I am an independent researcher 99% of the time), it is emotionally hard to see that someone with less (or sometimes much less) publication record and yet-to-be-proven “research independence” can land on a tenure-track position in a decent R1 or R2 institutions at US, while I couldn’t even get a single on-site interview after submitting more than 220 job applications over the last two application cycles; I do not know what else do I need to do in order to land on a tenure-track position, or maybe I should quit the academia world and stop chasing a tenure-track position at a decent university where the teaching loads are not insanely high (so that research productivity cannot be expected at all)?

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Side notes: I start considering seriously an option outside academia and would appreciate any opportunity to land on a industry job (as long as H1B-sponsorship can be secured). Personally I started trading in the stock market last July and had made 25K-30K using my 50K principal, maybe I can try to find a role in a quant company as a (professional) trader if academia is not for me ?

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那个网站大概是全世界的。美国一年毕业大概2000数学PHD,300个位置。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:34:11

回国看看?-:) -有言- 给 有言 发送悄悄话 有言 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:34:21

他有国内的OFFER,嫌待遇不够好。 -borisg- 给 borisg 发送悄悄话 borisg 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:35:55

那回啊,追求学术不是?-:) -有言- 给 有言 发送悄悄话 有言 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:44:31

走学术道路,必须跟业界最好的教授读phd -SVChinese- 给 SVChinese 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:35:00

一直都是这样的... -trivial- 给 trivial 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:42:30

我们现在经常看不上千老,觉得他们收入低。卢钢那会,找一份千老的位置都不容易,要不老布什怎么会输。搞学术未来前景不乐观 -Amita- 给 Amita 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:45:24

应数三十年前就这样。 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 凊荷 的博客首页 (56 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 18:48:55

Tenured professor位置一直是僧多粥少,没什么可抱怨的 -Lionkingmom- 给 Lionkingmom 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/03/2025 postreply 19:28:11

数学教授职位每年远不止300 -枪迷球迷- 给 枪迷球迷 发送悄悄话 枪迷球迷 的博客首页 (235 bytes) () 02/04/2025 postreply 09:35:17

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