CS毕业生 就业困境 机遇减少 求职困难 竞争激烈

这篇文章特别是对 Cornell 大学 CS 的就业的. 特别是分析了就读康乃尔大学、将升大四的电脑科学专业学生Alex Giang(蒋?)同学,他 在申请 Uber、Airbnb、Tesla 特斯拉、Facebook、苹果和 Amazon 亚马逊等实习都没能成功

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/computer-science-majors-job-market-7ad443bf 

 

By 
Katherine Bindley
 
Corrie Driebusch
 
 and 
Lindsay Ellis
 
 Photographs by Kate Warren for The Wall Street Journal
 ET
 
Computer science is hotter than ever at U.S. universities. But students graduating this month are discovering their degrees are no longer a surefire ticket to tech-industry riches.
In fact, many are finding it harder than they ever thought it would be to land a job.
Tech giants that were expanding aggressively just a few years ago now have less need for entry-level hires—or are shedding jobs. They are also, increasingly, turning their focus to artificial intelligence, a technology many fear could reduce the need for coders. Postings on jobs website Indeed for software-development roles, a proxy for computer science, have dropped 30% from prepandemic levels.
At the same time, companies have a burgeoning supply of new grads to choose from. The number of students in the U.S. majoring in computer and information science has jumped 40% in five years, to more than 600,000 as of 2023. The number of bachelor’s degrees conferred in those majors topped 100,000 in 2021, according to the Department of Education, a 140% rise from 10 years earlier.
Students who once had jobs and summer internships lined up by Thanksgiving are now broadening their searches.
“When I tell people I’m in computer science, they’re, like, ‘Lucky you. You’re going to make a lot of money. You can do anything you want,’” said Ben Riesett, a 22-year-old who graduated this month from Catholic University of America. “The truth is, when you start looking right now, it’s impossible to get hired.”
Just a few years ago, Riesett heard constantly that employers needed staff with his skill set; now, his classmates with jobs got them through friends or family, or from internships. Riesett, in Washington, D.C., said he has applied to entry-level roles all over the country and received only a few responses.

Computer science is a popular line of study at Cornell and other top universities.

To be sure, comp-sci majors from top-tier schools can still get jobs. Pay, projected to be at about $75,000, is at the high end of majors reviewed by the National Association of Colleges and Employers, or NACE. They are just not all going to Facebook or Google.
“Job seekers need to reset their expectations,” said Tim Herbert, chief research officer at CompTIA, a trade group that follows the tech sector. “New grads may need to adjust where they’re willing to work, in some cases what salary, perks or signing bonus they’ll receive, and the type of firm they’ll work for.”
And while big tech companies are hiring for AI-related jobs, Herbert said, many of those positions require more experience than a new grad would have.
Salaries for this year’s graduates in computer science are expected to be 2.7% higher than last year’s, the smallest increase of eight fields reviewed by NACE. 
In the past 18 months, job growth has remained flat for software publishers, a group of employers that includes software developers, according to the Labor Department. On the student jobs platform Handshake, the number of full-time jobs recently posted for tech companies is down 30% from the year-ago period.

Looking farther afield

Jarin Rahman, an information-science major who just completed her junior year at Cornell University, had long assumed she would try to land a job at a large tech company. As a first-generation college student, she thought it was the best path.
But Rahman knows lots of seniors who interned at big tech companies last summer and didn’t get return offers. With the tech industry appearing less stable than she anticipated, she started looking elsewhere.
“It made me really stressed out because I know that I have to find a way to support my family,” she said.
This summer, she will intern at a real-estate investment management firm.

Cornell University student Jarin Rahman says she knows seniors who interned but didn’t receive return job offers.

Stephanie Johnson, a career-development lead with the computer-science department at the University of North Carolina, said her students on average were applying to 150 or more jobs. Many were still waiting for offers in the spring.
Just a few years ago, they might apply for 20 or 40 positions—and get a final offer in the fall.
Johnson said she has seen more students focused on companies where tech is a service and not the product. She knows two students who were offered roles at big tech companies but declined: One went to a bank, the other to a retailer.
The University of Virginia typically offers a large career fair called Tech Night Takeover, hosting big companies for a night of networking. This year, the school expanded the event to include employers in healthcare, energy and financial services hiring for tech roles.

Hand-delivered applications

The pipeline is bursting with comp-sci students who will need jobs in the next few years. Computer and information science is the fastest-growing top-20 major in the U.S. at four-year colleges, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. It is the fourth-most-popular major overall. Between 2018 and 2023, the number of students majoring in computer and information science jumped from about 444,000 to 628,000.
Pierce Avner, who just finished his junior year at the University of Colorado, Boulder, said he applied online for hundreds of internships last year. The majority never responded. Of those that did, many sent back a rejection note within 15 seconds to a minute.
This year, he took an old-fashioned route, hand-delivering about 20 applications to tech companies around Denver and Boulder. He also sent emails to alumni from the Theta Tau professional engineering fraternity. He is set to intern at an aerospace company this summer, one of the employers he found through his fraternity networking.
Alex Giang, a computer-science major who just finished his junior year at Cornell, is preparing to start a software-engineering internship at a digital-advertising company. Applications to UberAirbnbTesla, Facebook, Apple and Amazon.com didn’t pan out. 
Friends are adjusting, too. Their new mentality is: “If you get a job, even if you don’t like it, you need to take it because you don’t know if you’re going to get anything else,” Giang said.

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为什么过去两年tech裁了那么多员工? 说明人浮于世效率低下。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (116 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:23:20

因为前几年公司都怕找不到足够的talent。有活没活都先收进来留着。现在发现不需要了。 -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (180 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:45:57

我们这条街的邻居一个娃伯克利EECS一个Cal Poly CS, 都做了好几年intern。毕业都没找到工作。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:55:39

去年intern的return offer好像特别重要。拿到的就都还好。没拿到的就比较麻烦 -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (104 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:58:32

拿到也有很多被取消了。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:00:42

Cornell 的CS还是藤校中排名最高的。 -youtub- 给 youtub 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:26:38

所以WSJ才会用来调研分析 -兄贵- 给 兄贵 发送悄悄话 兄贵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:28:14

来美比较早的经历过.com泡沫破灭,那时计算机专业找工作比以前难一些,过一阵就好了。 -youtub- 给 youtub 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:42:15

你是忘了伤疤了,00年的到09年才从新开始boom,09,还是10年是史低的Cs学位发放率。 -yzhl888- 给 yzhl888 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:51:11

每年光华印两族娃进大学有个12万左右,可能起码有个3万去读CS,竞争不激烈不行啊 -大西洋里来的人- 给 大西洋里来的人 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:35:52

这个康家小中男还是找到intern了啊。只不过没找到大厂的。另一个康的是first gen女生, 换轨道了 -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (166 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:41:52

一开始是要求太高呀。。。赫赫 -Midwestrural- 给 Midwestrural 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:43:00

楼主的编者按有点误导。。。 -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:49:55

是的,楼主好像也有点恨康情节。 -河塘月色45- 给 河塘月色45 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:58:02

既生瑜何生亮。CMU 对Cornell。 lol -Bailey4321- 给 Bailey4321 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:00:10

记得老早以前也是砸康,被一个教授给驳斥了一下。 -河塘月色45- 给 河塘月色45 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:04:40

楼主恨藤,因为没录他娃 -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:03:00

那个换轨道的是IS major, 康的IS的课程技术难度要去比CS差很多。那个学CS的rising senior, -joytolearn- 给 joytolearn 发送悄悄话 (1112 bytes) () 05/30/2024 postreply 05:14:56

前几年给的期望值太高了而已。认识一个中等LAC 文科转 CS 的都找到工作了,不过是医疗系统的 IT -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 19:59:00

想想Musk在twitter裁了那么多软工service照常运行就知道这行水分有多大了 -w20636- 给 w20636 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 20:54:21

很想知道你家牛娃去哪了? -zaocha2002- 给 zaocha2002 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/29/2024 postreply 22:09:31

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