剑于的帖子有一个非常重要的现实意义,不要逼女娃读CS,读个能长期坚持下来的专业更好

来源: mjnew 2023-04-27 17:59:48 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (3874 bytes)

Women in science and engineering - 剑于发表于 子女教育 - 论坛 | 文学城 (wenxuecity.com)

 

The reason is that women has no long term passion for science and engineering. They bolted out after a few years and turn to quality engineering, project management, etc. Women like me who still like to do true engineering are one of kind (凤毛菱角)。It's really bad investment for 左左藤校,cause mass majority of their women prodigies don't give a shit about engineering or science anymore. Poor 小中小印男who cares about engineering and science, their spots are ripped off. I wrote my observation five years ago in 文学城 after my son's college application (he was turned down by every his reach schools except one and some of his match school), lol.

 

再结合大数据研究,如果女娃对理工兴趣不大,还是不要读理工。读个能长期积累经验的专业更好

 

https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/students-pay-a-growing-price-for-landing-a-job-outside-their-college-major/2023/04

 

The pay gap between college-educated workers in and out of their fields of study widened by more than half between 1993 and 2019, according to a new University of Kansas study. 

 

One of the things that we know is that occupations tend to be sticky. If your first job out of college is well-matched with what you studied, that tends to carry forward in terms of whatever future jobs you have over the course of your career。

 

For example, many schools have made a concerted effort to engage more students in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. But, the study found computer science and engineering graduates—particularly women—paid a bigger mismatch penalty than graduates in other fields like liberal arts. While more women are graduating in STEM fields today than in prior decades, women were less likely than men to end up getting jobs in those fields, in part because they were more likely to report worse work-life balance or fewer chances for promotion.

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对任何专业,对男娃也不能逼着读啊 -闲聊一二- 给 闲聊一二 发送悄悄话 (149 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:07:36

老中女未必对stem有真passion, 对于移民就是一份工作。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (153 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:16:09

二代不需要这样,不如读business,医,护士,法 -mjnew- 给 mjnew 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:22:39

二代如果能早点找到自己的passion很好, 没有也不用急。高中大学就是用来explore的。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (42 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:26:13

偏见 -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:29:52

我比男生做得好 -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:30:35

完全不能证明你有passion。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:36:39

你先证明保更有passion? -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:42:34

你女软件工程师? -fakegreen- 给 fakegreen 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:43:28

我不是码工,胜似码工,能不能证明我有passion? -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:44:36

为什么这个话题针对“老中女”? 其他群体不同吗? -trivial- 给 trivial 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:46:59

只是想说明学好做好的专业, 未必真有passion。这个东西岁时间转移正常。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:25:25

好吧,解释了“老”。 那和“中女”有什么关系? 对男性和其他族裔这东西就不随时间转移了? -trivial- 给 trivial 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:30:09

只有咱国学位的文科妈妈 穷则变,变则通,通则久 -美国老土- 给 美国老土 发送悄悄话 美国老土 的博客首页 (275 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:32:36

为什么这个话题要针对女生。 对男生不同吗? -trivial- 给 trivial 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 18:45:55

性别歧视 -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:06:00

妥妥的性别歧视啊,这话在公司可能丢工作啊 -12度圆缺- 给 12度圆缺 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:02:46

是啊 -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:03:54

不好意思,我家大囡还就是对engineering感兴趣,不感兴趣的事她就是不干。 -篱笆08- 给 篱笆08 发送悄悄话 篱笆08 的博客首页 (28 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:03:53

太囡威武 -恒妈- 给 恒妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:04:55

这个教授说了原因 How Society Brainwashes Women -WenWen.- 给 WenWen. 发送悄悄话 WenWen. 的博客首页 (194 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:11:16

Women in high paying jobs -WenWen.- 给 WenWen. 发送悄悄话 WenWen. 的博客首页 (194 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:27:12

social偏见很严重的。女孩子进STEM领域人们by default 认为就是花瓶,装饰。而不是judge -篱笆08- 给 篱笆08 发送悄悄话 篱笆08 的博客首页 (134 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:38:56

嗯,他肯定了女孩的各种能力和聪明才智 -WenWen.- 给 WenWen. 发送悄悄话 WenWen. 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 19:48:44

Good observation!! especially in hardware engineering field. -剑于- 给 剑于 发送悄悄话 剑于 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 04/28/2023 postreply 08:45:59

知道娃的一个小印男同学医学院中间退学干别的行业去了,家长逼上的。所以无论男女娃,逼上路都不行 -大西洋里来的人- 给 大西洋里来的人 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 04/27/2023 postreply 20:29:00

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