Do Ivy League Universities have feeder schools? (ZT)

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Officially, no. But there are a number of Private Schools that manage to get a disproportionate number of their graduates into the Ivies. This includes:

  • Trinity School, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 40%
  • Collegiate School, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 40%
  • Brearly School, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 37%
  • Horace Mann School, The Bronx, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 36%
  • Roxbury Latin School, West Roxbury, MA
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 36%
  • Phillips Academy Andover, Andover, MA
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 33%
  • The Spence School, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 33%
  • The Winsor School, Boston, MA
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~31%
  • The Dalton School, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 31%
  • St. Paul's School, Concord, NH
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 30%
  • Chapin, New York, NY
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 30%
  • Harvard-Westlake School, Los Angeles, CA
    Percentage of graduates admitted to Ivy League ~ 30%

However, it may be a little more complicated. Going to one of these schools does not guarantee acceptance but they do tend to produce the types of students desired by elite colleges for a number of reasons:

  1. They themselves are selective in the students they take so to some degree, graduates are already pre-selected.
  2. They are very good schools with small classes excellent teachers and facilities. Graduates are generally well-prepared for an Ivy League education. The colleges know what they are getting.
  3. They are very expensive (most are above $40k per year) so colleges know that most (though by no means all) can afford to pay for an Ivy Education and that they often come from families who have, can or will make significant donations to the college.
  4. Finally, these schools’ guidance departments do an excellent job of creating strong relationships with the Ivys. They will not use their relationships to push just any student who wants to go to an Ivy.

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TJ公布的去年四百八人毕业去向信息说接受超过六个学生的藤有哈康两个,同一年菲利普的三百人超过六个入学的藤是布哥康哈宾耶 -Cambridge617- 给 Cambridge617 发送悄悄话 Cambridge617 的个人群组 (201 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 04:12:01

这个高中太厉害了。芝大20,哈佛12,哥大10,耶鲁10, 布朗9 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 05:49:27

公高自然是没法跟私高比,TJ 在公高里已经很不错了。 -acreek- 给 acreek 发送悄悄话 acreek 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:32:08

在一本书里,提供数据表示,这些学校其实上Ivy的太少了。当然比一般公校多,但就其学术水平和成绩,应该多得多。原因 -无言无语无声- 给 无言无语无声 发送悄悄话 无言无语无声 的个人群组 (447 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 03:47:52

录取学生像沙拉吧拿菜,每一样都有,不能全是一类人。另外学校的可持续发展也是考虑,不能拿一大盘铁公鸡 -Cambridge617- 给 Cambridge617 发送悄悄话 Cambridge617 的个人群组 (248 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 05:24:35

选的收入高得家庭很多。50万以上比例12%多,45%的超过12点5万。很穷的比例少。 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:00:17

五十万以上的应该在28%以上,因为有16%不愿意说,低收入家庭学校掌握 -Cambridge617- 给 Cambridge617 发送悄悄话 Cambridge617 的个人群组 (49 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:51:16

太不公平了。我们全州名额不如人家一个高中 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:04:31

哈哈,这些都是通过全州选拔或者区域选拔的高中,所以录取名校才多嘛,很多好学生都往里面挤 -you_fu1- 给 you_fu1 发送悄悄话 you_fu1 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:33:53

这些学校的确有很多legacy -加州阳光123- 给 加州阳光123 发送悄悄话 加州阳光123 的博客首页 加州阳光123 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:04:52

数据如果剔除本州藤校,会更合理。 -CQZ702- 给 CQZ702 发送悄悄话 CQZ702 的博客首页 CQZ702 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:27:18

哈,你还没睡啊 -zaocha2002- 给 zaocha2002 发送悄悄话 zaocha2002 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2022 postreply 22:45:43

今天周五,晚睡一点,就是临睡前给大家点功课啊 :)Good Night! : ) -加州阳光123- 给 加州阳光123 发送悄悄话 加州阳光123 的博客首页 加州阳光123 的个人群组 (171 bytes) () 08/05/2022 postreply 22:50:15

晚安! -zaocha2002- 给 zaocha2002 发送悄悄话 zaocha2002 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2022 postreply 22:51:39

没说大部分这些丝糕里有多少是legacy -windyLL- 给 windyLL 发送悄悄话 windyLL 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/05/2022 postreply 22:57:20

50%+, 以前一个私高的counselor 说过,网上有报道 -mjnew- 给 mjnew 发送悄悄话 mjnew 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 03:51:53

这么高。我们这里附近私立高中,前年有个小黑女得妈妈哥大毕业,她也进了哥大。是她们高中唯一录取的,只一个名额。 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 05:53:22

不仅如此,起码一半的父母有钱有地位,他们娃优先录取 -mjnew- 给 mjnew 发送悄悄话 mjnew 的个人群组 (2056 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:07:01

真是拼爹。你看富豪的孩子基本都是名校。比尔盖茨,ZOOM老板,总统孩子,哪个不是 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:15:22

去年我们村斯坦福录取的唯一名额,也是有色人种女孩,她爸爸是斯坦福本科毕业。 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:08:31

你们村怎么都是有色人种legacy? lol -加州阳光123- 给 加州阳光123 发送悄悄话 加州阳光123 的博客首页 加州阳光123 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:11:26

我指的黑人,印第安人,墨西哥人。没说清楚 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:16:43

这些大学这样特别不合理。要说为了捐款,可以显示家庭收入信息,但是人种不应该参考 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:30:52

斯坦福录取的女孩就是黑人和印第安人混血。学习不突出,她爸爸是校友,也给斯坦福捐款了。同时竞争的4个白人校友都没录取。 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:19:59

我们州有色人种偏多。对亚裔不利。有很多孩子看着是白人,但是墨西哥后裔,不知道几代了。不公平。 -bobpainting- 给 bobpainting 发送悄悄话 bobpainting 的个人群组 (0 bytes) () 08/06/2022 postreply 06:26:48

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