大藤 Legacy

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Legacy in undergraduate admission

 

Harvard:   父母哈佛本科毕业

"Fitzsimmons also said that Harvard's undergraduate population is comprised of approximately 12 to 13 percent legacies, a group he defined as children of Harvard College alumni and Radcliffe College alumnae."

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/5/11/admissions-fitzsimmons-legacy-legacies/

 

 

Yale:   父母耶鲁本科,研究生毕业

"legacies — students with one or both parents who attended Yale College, graduate or professional schools — have a “hook” in the admissions game."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2005/02/16/legacies-still-maintain-edge-in-admissions/

 

 

Princeton:   父母普林本科,研究生毕业

“To be a legacy, a student must have a parent or step-parent who attended Old Nassau. Undergraduate and graduate alumni ties hold the same weight. While admissions staff are aware of applicants who have siblings at Princeton, they don’t receive preferential treatment and need to be competitive in their own right. 

Yet as Dan Lee said, “not all legacies are created equal.” He explained that top universities — including Princeton — rank their legacy applicants. The children whose parent contributed more time or money to their alma mater are prioritized over those who gave less. ”

https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2020/06/princeton-admissions-legacy-athletics-recruitment-testing-waitlist

 

 

Stanford:   父母斯坦佛本科,研究生毕业

"At Stanford, “legacy” applicants are defined as the children of Stanford graduates at either the undergraduate or graduate level. With respect to philanthropy, Stanford does not document in admission files the donor status of all applicants' families. However, some applicants' files may contain a notation about their family’s giving. In the large majority of these cases, the parents of the applicants are also graduates of Stanford. Philanthropy plays a significant role in supporting the opportunities available to all students at Stanford, including the ability to attend the university through our program of need-based financial aid."

https://provost.stanford.edu/2020/06/26/admissions-considerations/#:~:text=At%20Stanford%2C%20%E2%80%9Clegacy%E2%80%9D%20applicants,status%20of%20all%20applicants'%20families.?

 

 

MIT:   没有Legacy

"Just To Be Clear: We Don't Do Legacy"

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/just-to-be-clear-we-dont-do-legacy/

 

 

 

 

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读Advanced Degrees的话, 尽量去Yale, Princeton, or Stanford? -BeLe- 给 BeLe 发送悄悄话 BeLe 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 00:33:53

问题是Y/P的医法商工的硕/博有些专业有点软 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (63 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 05:35:36

legacy也是分三六九等的。研究生不是亲生的,没钱捐一样做分母。 -4BigFive- 给 4BigFive 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:30:51

都是典型的雾里看花 -tibuko- 给 tibuko 发送悄悄话 tibuko 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 02:44:00

能否多写俩字给大家拨开云雾? -成功的孔雀- 给 成功的孔雀 发送悄悄话 (128 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 04:26:15

哈佛毕业的端盘子的不少,他们的下一代申请的时候,哈佛有什么动力给他们照顾? -tibuko- 给 tibuko 发送悄悄话 tibuko 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 05:34:00

哈佛势利,只偏心成功人士LOL -成功的孔雀- 给 成功的孔雀 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:42:58

有个统计说某校 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (222 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 05:58:44

正确 -cczz- 给 cczz 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:31:00

所以用了“牛值”,光成绩好对别人不够,对他们就够了 -成功的孔雀- 给 成功的孔雀 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:56:22

谢谢仔细收集和分享! -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 03:24:00

这俩个星期在紫檀上真是学到了很多牛家长的做事严谨精益求精的方式和无私的分享 -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 03:27:00

-fanersai- 给 fanersai 发送悄悄话 (376 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 04:19:42

太牛了 -成功的兔- 给 成功的兔 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 05:15:29

LOL -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:17:19

感觉今年各藤校根本顾不上Legacy的事儿 -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (217 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:04:57

今年优先考虑的就是Legacy URM 1stGen LowIncome -lookforward- 给 lookforward 发送悄悄话 lookforward 的博客首页 (59 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:28:25

Legacy都是为学校要么出钱要么出力的legacy. 一般legacy没用 -newca- 给 newca 发送悄悄话 newca 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:32:10

顾得上啊 -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (77 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:54:56

现在看来,legacy显得那么不合时宜。是该废除了 -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:51:33

legacy子女起点已经比平均高,升学还要受照顾,的确说不过去 -lookforward- 给 lookforward 发送悄悄话 lookforward 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:00:54

我看到早录的基本都是legacy, donation and recruited athletes -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:01:00

耐心等待,RD 会有big surprise. Good luck. -四娃兔妈- 给 四娃兔妈 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 10:36:43

谢谢 -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 15:09:00

不捐钱的或者捐的少的legacy也就呵呵了 -nnn333- 给 nnn333 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:17:00

没错。不捐款的占不到legacy 便宜。邻居两口子都是H,孩子在学校还是top GPA, 没进去H,她说legacy 没用 -newca- 给 newca 发送悄悄话 newca 的博客首页 (92 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:46:32

会不会一看爹妈是校友但是从来没捐款,反而坚决不要?lol. -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:00:06

会的,如果我是AO -:) -quantnj- 给 quantnj 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:31:09

Shouldn’t they donate some as their budget allows? -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:34:00

学校是有信要求捐款的,但她们没怎么捐过,倒不是没钱就是很忙,没在意过 -newca- 给 newca 发送悄悄话 newca 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:34:49

今年BLM年 -Bebe54321- 给 Bebe54321 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 06:45:12

Y legacy 的比例在遂年减少。legacy 在不远的将来会被取消的。 -如愿了- 给 如愿了 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:07:00

那耶鲁学生和州大学生的家庭成分会不会变得差不多? 那耶鲁还是耶鲁吗? -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:13:05

捐款的legacy应该还是会看的。 -newca- 给 newca 发送悄悄话 newca 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:36:38

对大藤,捐款的事很容易误导。偶尔捐款或临时抱佛脚没用,即使数量大。长期捐款的校友才有可能 -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:44:28

How much would need to be donated in order to make an impact? I -四叶之草- 给 四叶之草 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:49:00

最好要打动学校 :) -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:52:33

看来应该本科H后,去SYP读个硕士毕业? -兔8- 给 兔8 发送悄悄话 (72 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:41:10

反例,我们这近几年进AIME的女生没有一个被H录取的,男生AMO绝大多数也进不了H -acreek- 给 acreek 发送悄悄话 (33 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:51:08

说的是有legacy的 -lookforward- 给 lookforward 发送悄悄话 lookforward 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:58:47

这个翻译LOL -acreek- 给 acreek 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:59:53

也可能是女生自己选的m? -niweb1- 给 niweb1 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 12:18:07

大藤只有M看重USAMO和AIME之类的 -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 07:56:25

其实都看重,只是不愿与M争 -兔8- 给 兔8 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:01:38

笑话 -眼镜- 给 眼镜 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:03:28

就当是个笑话吧。LOL -兔8- 给 兔8 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:05:49

大藤们互相太客气,这学生不是就惨了? -greenoasis- 给 greenoasis 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:22:33

data point -潭影空心- 给 潭影空心 发送悄悄话 (145 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 08:39:01

EA和RD亚裔的录取比例差不多,小中早申有利。白人RD有利。 -m1688- 给 m1688 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 09:18:59

Legacy对于学校百年长青至关重要。 -haoren3- 给 haoren3 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 02/21/2021 postreply 16:07:04

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