看看这个应该是白男CS教授说的。紫檀同意不同意？What would make a fair college admission

What would make a fair college admissions process?

 

 

Jeff Erickson, CS professor, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Answered 24m ago

 

If I ruled the world and unicorns pooped chocolate rainbows, here’s how I’d do it.

First, each college develops a good predictive model for which students will thrive in their degree programs. Every university is different, so every university’s model would be different; even on the same campus, every degree program is different, so every degree programs model would be different. Of course the model has to be resilient enough to account for bright students who don’t know what they want to do yet, or applicants who realize that their initial absolutely-this-or-nothing-else first choice is really a bad fit. The model would be constantly adjusted based on students’ actual performance.

I believe most colleges already do this, but I would demand one change: The basic parameters of the model would be publicly advertised.

Second, each admissions committee would determine, for each applicant, whether that applicant is likely to thrive at their college, in their desired degree program. In short, which applicants, in isolation, qualify for admission?

Third, the college would choose a random subset of students identified in step 2 to offer admission, purely by lottery, up to the capacity that the college (and/or its individual degree programs) can responsibly admit. If you are qualified, you get a lottery ticket; no more and no less. For example, if all you need to qualify is a 3.7 GPA, then a student with a 3.7 GPA would have exactly the same chance of admission as a student with a 4.0 GPA, 75 AP credits, an an Olympic gold medal, and rich alumni parents.

Worried about admitting too many weak students? Change the model in step 1.

Worried about US News ranking, or some other measure of prestige? Too bad. You asked for something fair.

Also, college should cost only 50 liters of unicorn poop per semester, and I want a pony.

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• 我不同意 ：） 特别是 CS這樣不行，別的專業可以。 -像龟的兔子- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 11:31:18

• 对于晚成熟的小孩子是好事。 -haoren3- ♂ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 12:12:29

• 满足条件的随机，也算不上公平，世界还是有慧眼识珠的主观判断 -tibuko- ♂ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 12:15:45

• 我非常同意。在满足筛选条件之后随机抽签，可以突出神的作用，让人少一些挖空心思，不择手段 -moderation- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 12:35:22

• 随机到IMO常常进不了好学校？ -BeLe- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 12:54:09

• IMO will be in the model if it predicts student success -kent928- ♂ (136 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:20:04

• Model如何考虑各校GPA难易甚至同一校不同老师打分松紧？最客观的恐怕是高考了，那也筛不出马云那样的 -pucsdt- ♂ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:26:17

• 这个挺好，大家公平抽签。上面也说了不同的专业Step1条件不同。关键是标准要公布。 -8piglet- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:27:46

• 等到"unicorns pooped chocolate rainbows"的时候 :-) -橄榄树1- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:36:27

• 最好的办法就是取消AO，该用AI 自动录取 -锦衣卫- ♀ (59 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:40:13

• 模型是很简单的，所有科学的研究都证明。高中的GPA大学的GPA有很强的正相关性。如果大学希望自己的学生的成绩越高越好，那么他应该 -秦始皇弟- ♂ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 13:45:00

• 氮素，很多大学希望看到的是毕业生的成就，而不是大学的GPA。 -白色非色- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 15:10:45

• 那为什么医学院法学院都盯着GPA啊。LOL -greenoasis- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 16:26:41

• 好像没听说有啥数学模型能成功预测复杂的社会行为。如果有这样的东西，岂不是算命应该能大行其道。 -成功的熊- ♂ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 15:50:54

• In progress -85858585- ♀ (0 bytes) () 01/12/2020 postreply 21:05:08