外行看热闹,内行看门道

来源: 凊荷 2019-07-17 17:26:50 [] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读: 次 (253824 bytes)

外行看热闹,内行看门道。

娃说他们都看这个,没人care别的ranking 

https://www.quora.com/When-will-US-News-rank-graduate-Computer-Science-programs-again

"Since the emergence of CSRankings.org, I actually care much less about the US News ranking. I’ve been telling all my colleagues and every student I meet about CSRankings.org. To me, sheer productivity at the top publication venues should be the only way to quantify the strength of departments, not a opaque calculation based on the opinions of a few. It’s much harder to game than both reputation or citation counting rankings (witness the rapid rise of King Abdulaziz University to #13 in the US News rankings, well-above Waterloo, Princeton, Georgia Tech, CMU, UCSD, and #46 ranked UIUC!). It is seriously non-trivial to “game” the system by pumping out SOSP/OSDI or PLDI papers.

It is difficult to argue that CSRankings is trading volume for quality, when you consider that only 3 conferences per research area make the cut. If CSRankings encourages you to optimize for “quantity,” by submitting to SOSP or NSDI or SIGCOMM, then where would we submit if we were optimizing for “quality”?

So I’d rather spend time working on my research than worry about US News. Good research will get published and generate impact at top places, and a reasonable sample of that will be captured by CSRankings.org."

最热的AI ranking

 

All Areas  [off | on]

AI [off | on]

? Artificial intelligence
? Computer vision
? Machine learning & data mining
? Natural language processing
? The Web & information retrieval     
 

Systems [off | on]

? Computer architecture
? Computer networks
? Computer security
? Databases
? Design automation
? Embedded & real-time systems  
? High-performance computing
? Mobile computing
? Measurement & perf. analysis 
? Operating systems
? Programming languages
? Software engineering
 

Theory [off | on]

? Algorithms & complexity
? Cryptography
? Logic & verification
 

Interdisciplinary Areas [off | on]

? Comp. bio & bioinformatics
? Computer graphics
? Economics & computation
? Human-computer interaction
? Robotics
? Visualization
# Institution Count  Faculty
? Carnegie Mellon University closed piechart 57.5 78
 
 
? Cornell University closed piechart 34.4 45
 
 
? Stanford University closed piechart 33.6 41
 
 
? Georgia Institute of Technology closed piechart 25.4 42
 
 
? Massachusetts Institute of Technology closed piechart 20.3 57
 
 
? University of California - Berkeley closed piechart 20.2 45
 
 
? University of Maryland - College Park closed piechart 19.2 31
 
 
? Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign closed piechart 17.8 41
 
 
? University of Texas at Austin closed piechart 17.6 22
 
 
10  ? University of Massachusetts Amherst closed piechart 16.2 27
 
 
11  ? University of California - Los Angeles closed piechart 16.1 21
 
 
12  ? University of Pennsylvania closed piechart 15.7 25
 
 
13  ? University of Michigan closed piechart 15.3 32
 
 
14  ? Columbia University closed piechart 15.1 26
 
 
15  ? University of Washington closed piechart 14.4 32
 
 
16  ? Rutgers University closed piechart 13.7 24
 
 
17  ? University of California - San Diego closed piechart 12.3 23
 
 
17  ? University of Southern California closed piechart 12.3 24
 
 
19  ? Northeastern University closed piechart 11.3 30
 
 
20  ? Johns Hopkins University closed piechart 11.2 13
 
 
21  ? New York University closed piechart 10.3 31
 
 
22  ? University of Illinois at Chicago closed piechart 9.9 19
 
 
23  ? Arizona State University closed piechart 9.1 14
 
 
24  ? Oregon State University closed piechart 8.9 13
 
 
25  ? Pennsylvania State University closed piechart 8.8 18
 
 
26  ? Purdue University closed piechart 8.5 31
 
 
27  ? University of California - Irvine closed piechart 8.4 15
 
 
28  ? University of Pittsburgh closed piechart 8.3 8
 
 
29  ? Harvard University closed piechart 8.1 15
 
 
30  ? University of California - Santa Barbara closed piechart 7.8 21
 
 
30  ? University of Texas at Dallas closed piechart 7.8 20
 
 
32  ? Boston University closed piechart 7.7 18
 
 
33  ? University of Wisconsin - Madison closed piechart 7.2 26
 
 
34  ? University of Rochester closed piechart 7.1 10
 
 
35  ? University of California - Santa Cruz closed piechart 6.8 18
 
 
36  ? Texas A&M University closed piechart 6.7 15
 
 
37  ? University of Virginia closed piechart 6.6 17
 
 
38  ? Northwestern University closed piechart 6.4 22
 
 
39  ? Brown University closed piechart 6.3 13
 
 
40  ? Ohio State University closed piechart 6.2 17
 
 
41  ? University of Central Florida closed piechart 6.1 12
 
 
41  ? University of Colorado Boulder closed piechart 6.1 22
 
 
43  ? University of Minnesota closed piechart 5.9 19
 
 
43  ? University of North Carolina closed piechart 5.9 9
 
 
45  ? Stony Brook University closed piechart 5.8 20
 
 
46  ? Princeton University closed piechart 5.7 21
 
 
46  ? TTI Chicago closed piechart 5.7 10
 
 
48  ? Duke University closed piechart 5.6 13
 
 
48  ? University of Utah closed piechart 5.6 11
 
 
50  ? University at Buffalo closed piechart 5.5 24
 
 
51  ? Temple University closed piechart 5.4 7
 
 
52  ? Michigan State University closed piechart 5.1 8
 
 
52  ? Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute closed piechart 5.1 9
 
 
52  ? Washington University in St. Louis closed piechart 5.1 16
 
 
55  ? University of Texas at Arlington closed piechart 5.0 12
 
 
56  ? Yale University closed piechart 4.6 12
 
 
57  ? Rice University closed piechart 4.4 11
 
 
57  ? University of California - Davis closed piechart 4.4 6
 
 
59  ? University of Notre Dame closed piechart 3.9 8
 
 
60  ? California Institute of Technology closed piechart 3.7 7
 
 
61  ? Indiana University closed piechart 3.6 10
 
 
61  ? Virginia Tech closed piechart 3.6 16
 
 
63  ? University of Houston closed piechart 3.4 8
 
 
64  ? Brigham Young University closed piechart 3.3 11
 
 
65  ? Rochester Institute of Technology closed piechart 3.2 16
 
 
65  ? Stevens Institute of Technology closed piechart 3.2 7
 
 
67  ? University of California - Riverside closed piechart 3.1 14
 
 
68  ? Binghamton University closed piechart 2.9 9
 
 
68  ? University of Iowa closed piechart 2.9 3
 
 
70  ? Colorado School of Mines closed piechart 2.8 4
 
 
71  ? Emory University closed piechart 2.7 9
 
 
71  ? Univ. of Maryland - Baltimore County closed piechart 2.7 6
 
 
71  ? University of Chicago closed piechart 2.7 10
 
 
74  ? University of Florida closed piechart 2.5 9
 
 
74  ? University of Kentucky closed piechart 2.5 6
 
 
76  ? Lehigh University closed piechart 2.4 7
 
 
76  ? University of Arizona closed piechart 2.4 6
 
 
76  ? University of Delaware closed piechart 2.4 3
 
 
79  ? University at Albany - SUNY closed piechart 2.3 3
 
 
79  ? Worcester Polytechnic Institute closed piechart 2.3 7
 
 
81  ? Georgetown University closed piechart 2.2 6
 
 
81  ? North Carolina State University closed piechart 2.2 13
 
 
81  ? West Virginia University closed piechart 2.2 8
 
 
84  ? CUNY closed piechart 2.1 8
 
 
84  ? Dartmouth College closed piechart 2.1 6
 
 
84  ? Florida State University closed piechart 2.1 5
 
 
84  ? George Mason University closed piechart 2.1 10
 
 
84  ? University of Georgia closed piechart 2.1 6
 
 
84  ? University of New Hampshire closed piechart 2.1 3
 
 
84  ? University of North Texas closed piechart 2.1 4
 
 
91  ? Iowa State University closed piechart 2.0 6
 
 
91  ? University of Massachusetts Lowell closed piechart 2.0 5
 
 
91  ? University of Texas at San Antonio closed piechart 2.0 1
 
 
94  ? Case Western Reserve University closed piechart 1.9 4
 
 
94  ? George Washington University closed piechart 1.9 4
 
 
94  ? University of Connecticut closed piechart 1.9 4
 
 
94  ? University of Oregon closed piechart 1.9 5
 
 
98  ? UNC - Charlotte closed piechart 1.8 3
 
 
98  ? University of Louisiana - Lafayette closed piechart 1.8 3
 
 
100  ? Brandeis University closed piechart 1.7 4
 
 
100  ? Georgia State University closed piechart 1.7 5
 
 
100  ? Illinois Institute of Technology closed piechart 1.7 4
 
 
100  ? Louisiana State University - Baton Rouge closed piechart 1.7 3
 
 
100  ? Univ. of Colorado Colorado Springs closed piechart 1.7 4
 
 
100  ? University of South Carolina closed piechart 1.7 3
 
 
100  ? Washington State University closed piechart 1.7 4
 
 
107  ? Drexel University closed piechart 1.6 3
 
 
107  ? Florida International University closed piechart 1.6 3
 
 
107  ? Missouri University of Technology closed piechart 1.6 3
 
 
107  ? Portland State University closed piechart 1.6 2
 
 
107  ? Syracuse University closed piechart 1.6 6
 
 
107  ? University of Kansas closed piechart 1.6 3
 
 
107  ? University of Memphis closed piechart 1.6 3
 
 
114  ? Colorado State University closed piechart 1.5 4
 
 
114  ? Florida Atlantic University closed piechart 1.5 1
 
 
114  ? IUPUI closed piechart 1.5 6
 
 
114  ? New Mexico State University closed piechart 1.5 2
 
 
114  ? University of Cincinnati closed piechart 1.5 3
 
 
114  ? University of Tennessee closed piechart 1.5 7
 
 
120  ? DePaul University closed piechart 1.4 6
 
 
120  ? Kent State University closed piechart 1.4 1
 
 
120  ? Mississippi State University closed piechart 1.4 2
 
 
120  ? NJIT closed piechart 1.4 7
 
 
120  ? Tufts University closed piechart 1.4 2
 
 
120  ? Tulane University closed piechart 1.4 5
 
 
120  ? University of Arkansas closed piechart 1.4 1
 
 
120  ? University of Massachusetts Boston closed piechart 1.4 2
 
 
120  ? University of New Mexico closed piechart 1.4 3
 
 
120  ? University of South Florida closed piechart 1.4 3
 
 
120  ? Wayne State University closed piechart 1.4 4
 
 
131  ? Boise State University closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? Boston College closed piechart 1.3 1
 
 
131  ? Michigan Technological University closed piechart 1.3 5
 
 
131  ? Old Dominion University closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? Texas Tech University closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? The University of Alabama closed piechart 1.3 3
 
 
131  ? University of Alabama - Birmingham closed piechart 1.3 4
 
 
131  ? University of Missouri closed piechart 1.3 4
 
 
131  ? University of Nebraska - Omaha closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? University of Nevada closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? University of Southern Mississippi closed piechart 1.3 1
 
 
131  ? University of Texas - El Paso closed piechart 1.3 2
 
 
131  ? University of Tulsa closed piechart 1.3 3
 
 
131  ? Virginia Commonwealth University closed piechart 1.3 1
 
 
145  ? Clemson University closed piechart 1.2 3
 
 
145  ? College of William and Mary closed piechart 1.2 2
 
 
145  ? OHSU closed piechart 1.2 2
 
 
145  ? Towson University closed piechart 1.2 1
 
 
145  ? University of Alabama - Huntsville closed piechart 1.2 1
 
 
145  ? University of Nebraska closed piechart 1.2 2
 
 
145  ? University of Wyoming closed piechart 1.2 1
 
 
145  ? Utah State University closed piechart 1.2 1
 
 
145  ? Vanderbilt University closed piechart 1.2 3
 
 
154  ? Helsinki University closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? Kansas State University closed piechart 1.1 2
 
 
154  ? Northern Arizona University closed piechart 1.1 2
 
 
154  ? Nova Southeastern University closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? Ohio University closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? University of Groningen closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? University of Hawaii at Manoa closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? University of Miami closed piechart 1.1 2
 
 
154  ? University of Michigan-Dearborn closed piechart 1.1 2
 
 
154  ? University of Missouri - Kansas City closed piechart 1.1 1
 
 
154  ? University of Vermont closed piechart 1.1 2
 
 
165  ? Montana State University closed piechart 1.0 1
 
 
165  ? University of Oklahoma closed piechart 1.0 1
 
 

所有跟帖: 

makes much more sense:) -wongjuer- 给 wongjuer 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:39:57

还是不完美哈 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (219 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:52:28

这个最全面 -和畅- 给 和畅 发送悄悄话 和畅 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:40:27

可以根据自己喜欢的专业看 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:50:40

纯粹一个教授的个人观点而已 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (735 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:45:45

没有排名是完美的啊。 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (41 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:49:54

单纯以论文数量来排估计是最差的。 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (372 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:52:23

那你说的是本科program -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (257 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:54:19

连硕士都不能单以论文质量/数量来排。 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (258 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:56:56

总比 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (225 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:58:22

hard to manipulate. Not like citations, buddies cite each other. -whaled- 给 whaled 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:08:32

那还是非常靠谱了 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (42 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:08:51

Read the Quora comment of Prof Ben Zhao, a UChicago professor -whaled- 给 whaled 发送悄悄话 (941 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:29:53

看到了 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (48 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:31:55

对CS而言,会议比期刊更有影响力 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (273 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:35:42

嗯,我也 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (62 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:37:51

Got it. Fixed. -whaled- 给 whaled 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:38:58

大学的一部分职责是教育。 -fantasticdream- 给 fantasticdream 发送悄悄话 fantasticdream 的博客首页 (231 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:10:21

这个AI 的话 Cornell and GTech 是不是有点虚高? -justdoit8- 给 justdoit8 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:52:48

不是 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (153 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 17:55:26

明白了,这个和数量挂钩。但是光看数量也有问题,现在是个研究就和AI 挂钩,遍地是AI的program, summer camp -justdoit8- 给 justdoit8 发送悄悄话 (53 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:03:21

美国 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (35 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:07:24

看了 -凊荷- 给 凊荷 发送悄悄话 (125 bytes) () 07/17/2019 postreply 18:46:28

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