不是有意抬杆,不过有没有日本的朋友告诉我,为什么会这样

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对不起,一开始写的游记就是英文。

Yokohama Chinatown (Yokohama Chukagai) is Japan's largest chinatown, located in central Yokohama. I didn’t hear any Chinese in this China town, this is the first China town I didn’t hear nearly any Chinese, only when we asked for direction I asked “do you speak in Chinese?” Tokyo is supposed to be an international city, but “good luck” to none Japanese speakers, as most of the signs not in English..., I can read “Japanese” as a lot of writing the same as Chinese! In museum no explanation in English, you just have to guess what the photos are about yourself. On the day we went to Tokyo skyetree, I can say at least one third of the visitors were foreigner, but the entire announcement were in Japanese only. Sometimes you see the sign “caution” then Japanese only after it sure it doesn’t mean everyone every country has to use English, not at all! But as an international city I guess you should use one most used language beside your own country’s language. I heard in France is even worse, OK I will be well prepared for it for the next year’s Europe’ trip and keep in mind that not easy for foreigner to find the ATM accepting overseas card in Japan, the ATM in post office and 7-11 is fine, a lot of chain shops like Familymat or Lawson or bank, display message “sorry, card in Japan only”. In Osaka it took us a bit more than one hour to find a suitable ATM service for foreigners in the centre of Namba. One more thing made me feel irritable from the beginning was those check out staff (mainly in supermarket or other retail shops), even though they knew you are a foreigner from the right beginning ( as no response to their Japanese at all), they still talked to you in Japanese to finish the whole procedure, it lasted for a few minutes, I guess what they need to say is “ hello welcome, I have received $$$ from you, now here is your change $$$, pls go to the other counter to pack up your stuff……” I just guessed I think they don’t need to do so as whatever you said I just simply don’t understand it just wasted your energy , I think under that circumstance smile and body language is more helpful, you just don’t need to talk to me, just accept the money from me, give me change, say some simple words like “thank you” that’s it. Those procedure five or six sentence Japanese only add nervous and uncomfortable feeling to the foreigner consumer. I know it is what they have been trained to do (and it is their culture to follow up the rules strictly) but why not being more flexible, not like machine! When I was in Thailand, Thai people are very sweet, they try to communicate to your with body language and big smile, they don’t insist to talk to you in Thai only and don’t act like they don’t care whether or not you understand . But sure I would like to emphasise that most of the Japanese people are so polite and helpful, I had a lot of good experiences with Japanese during my visit there. And even in supermarket and some shops, some check up staff did stop speaking in Japanese to me and actually just smiled at me and even helped me count the coins and note as I didn’t know the currency well

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我觉他们是不好意思说英语。你尽量说慢点清楚点,他们听还是能听懂一些的。 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (375 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 00:41:14

不是这样的,您可能没仔细看我的帖子,比如在中国城,没人说中文,比如在各大公共场所只有日文标志,比如在东京塔只有日文宣告。。。。 -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 00:45:03

么会啊。我刚从横滨带娃玩回来。你主动和餐厅人说汉语,会汉语的自然会和你说啊。 -zacao- 给 zacao 发送悄悄话 zacao 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 06:16:23

"Yokohama Chinatown (Yokohama Chukagai) is Japan's largest china -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (592 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 11:18:00

中文,韩文,日文,英文标志很多啊。东京塔横滨塔都有汉语小册子啊,连偶们村的滑雪场厕所里贴的都有中文。 -zacao- 给 zacao 发送悄悄话 zacao 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 06:21:59

人家幸福家庭网友是讲日本人不管你是哪国人,都用日文对着你噼里啪啦就开讲,这个是事实呀! -yhr- 给 yhr 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 07:08:42

是的:) 在商店里,你明明知道我不懂日本还要把那一整套程序说完,不是死板就是高傲,在我看来,我去泰国(非英文国家,在商店就没人非 -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (216 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 11:21:31

而且那天我们在东京塔,起码三分之一是外国人,他们的大喇叭告示全部是日文,工作人员全部日文,我们很无奈 -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (129 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 12:18:34

我一点点也没有抱怨他们不说英文的意思,我本身也不是英文人,不过在国际大都市应该要采用一种国际通用的书面语言,没办法, -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (265 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 00:50:40

2战时,日本控制了新加坡,要所有华人男子都必须向日本人报道身份,并到指定地点集中,因为文告是日文发表,华人不认识,没去的都被枪毙 -yhr- 给 yhr 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 07:19:26

关于此事,有学者研究论文,发表在日本著名学术刊物上。 -yhr- 给 yhr 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 07:21:09

感觉可能有点敏感吧,如果人家不会说英语,只好接着说当地语言啦。。 -Ycart- 给 Ycart 发送悄悄话 Ycart 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 08:48:15

唉,在商店里,你明明知道我不懂日本还要把那一整套程序说完,不是死板就是高傲,在我看来,我去泰国(非英文国家,在商店就没人非要和我 -myhappyfamily- 给 myhappyfamily 发送悄悄话 myhappyfamily 的博客首页 (824 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 11:20:20

日本就应该高傲! 这么少的人口,创造了这么多咚咚。泰国能比吗?真是笑话。 -湾月枕- 给 湾月枕 发送悄悄话 湾月枕 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 15:12:06

这话说得比较莫名其妙。 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 21:59:42

你去不同的国家应该了解一些基本的文化和民族性格。日本人和泰国人性格非常的不同,你不能用自己的想法来解释别人。旅游需要open-m -kozy- 给 kozy 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 17:09:20

赞! -zacao- 给 zacao 发送悄悄话 zacao 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/30/2014 postreply 14:53:40

那法国人呢?我怎么觉得人家说那么多一是也许是店家规定,第二也是尊重你,一视同仁啊。也许你能听懂点呢 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 22:17:56

机场安检人员也说日文,以前觉得他们傲慢,现在觉得愚味,严重和世界脱节 -天天喝茶- 给 天天喝茶 发送悄悄话 天天喝茶 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 08:06:57

美国人也只说英文啊。听不懂随时给叫翻译 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 22:02:23

这就是经济发达的表现---人才奇缺。 外文好的人,很快就有别的更好的机会。 -湾月枕- 给 湾月枕 发送悄悄话 湾月枕 的博客首页 (101 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 15:02:56

我去日本时也有语言障碍,但没感觉这么严重呢?当然东京什么的是朋友带着逛,没注意.但 -熊猫家的小猴子- 给 熊猫家的小猴子 发送悄悄话 熊猫家的小猴子 的博客首页 (484 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 16:06:06

全日本JR线上主要列车都有英文啊,东京很多地方也有,只是我觉得在日本用英文一点也不方便,还是中文汉字好用。 -kozy- 给 kozy 发送悄悄话 (282 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 17:07:21

看招牌之类猜中文字。张嘴问问题还是英文管用。日本人认这个。 -monochrome- 给 monochrome 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 21:58:29

我外派日本工作一年,之前一句日语也不会。用英语,书写汉字,笔划 -泽西明- 给 泽西明 发送悄悄话 泽西明 的博客首页 (333 bytes) () 12/29/2014 postreply 22:20:43

你想得太多了,在哪国说哪国的语言没错啊 -優子- 给 優子 发送悄悄话 (657 bytes) () 12/31/2014 postreply 00:21:29

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