多數人圍繞討論的应是朝鲜战争的意义，該不該，值不值。。等等

It is in fact a very interesting question for speculation. I can see why some downplay or even deny its significance for if China had not joined the communist camp, there would have been no need for this war. And joining the communist camp might neither be necessary nor good for China - a view I still hold today.

Yet, in this scenario, the Soviet Union would have been China's enemy, likely a more brutal and constant enemy since it was China's neighbor.  Yet the Soviet collapsed in the earlier 90s. But this wasn't something one could foretell. Or, had China not been allied with the Soviet, would the Soviet still collapse when time was due? Or, when?

I agree with Li's observation that the collapse of the Soviet had deeper reasons, but similar reasons can be observed in today's US... !  I think that was why Putin mocked the US : All the US now needs is a revolution.

At the end of the day, we can only respect what has already happened, and value the past deeds in their spiritual dimensions. In the case of the Korean war, the Chinese soldiers did show a majestic, triumphant spirit which was particularly precious given Chinese people's bitter experience since the opium war.

 

 

所有跟帖： 

• 说一千，道一万，不可否认的事实就是，志愿军是鸦片战争以来中国唯一一支能争善战的军队。 -为人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 19:44:00

• 看一看49年之前的百年历史，就一个词，“屈辱，” 即便作为两次世界大战的战胜国 -加拿大雁王- ♂ (452 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:00:20

• 说的没错！ -为人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:09:32

• 八年抗战在你这成内战了？ -为人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:54:09

• 上百万中朝两国军人的家破人亡就换来这么一不完全是事实的话，有意思吗？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:22:44

• 两百万朝鲜平民可不是被志愿军杀的，而是美国飞机炸死的。志愿军是朝鲜战场四个主要交战国唯一没有屠杀平民战争罪的一方。 -为人父- ♂ (50 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:46:30

• 造成这场伤亡惨重的战争的始作俑者是谁？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:57:51

• 美军不听中国警告，越过了三八线啊。否则哪还有抗美援朝。 -为人父- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:05:02

• 你人在国外，怎么读的历史啊？哎！ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:13:23

• 美军越过三八线， -南方古猿- ♂ (1283 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:18:42

• 不同问题 -南方古猿- ♂ (284 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:50:10

• 可以想象吗，美军直接陈兵中国边境！ -加拿大雁王- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:03

• 老毛真地在乎中国的发展，就不会不顾众人，比如林彪的反对，进兵朝鲜了。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:48

• 保家卫国是真目的！台湾亦如是 -SAR- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:36:30

• 赫尔曼沃克在“战争风云”一书导语中引用犹太作家朱丽安般达的一段话耐人寻味， -喜欢下雨- ♂ (139 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:40:27

• 基于？ -SAR- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:14:30

• 是的，笔误，sorry! -喜欢下雨- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:43:37

• 老毛很积极主动的，可不是被逼的，好伐？人在国外，要多听多看，即使人在墙内，翻墙出来了，不是也可以看到听到很多嘛。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:46:40

• 积极主动地御敌于国门之外，比蒋介石引狼入市高明不知多少倍。不知道你咋读的历史，好赖都分不清。 -为人父- ♂ (177 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:52:40

• 老毛在派兵之前，非常清楚美国没有进攻中国的计划，才下的决心。所谓的保家卫国不过是欺骗国内百姓的口号罢了。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:01:31

• 是你认为美军不会进攻中国吧？老毛哪知道啊。老毛没有你了解敌情。：） -为人父- ♂ (210 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:07:24

• 拜托你好好读读有关的历史再来笑吧，哈！ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:15:01

• 无论有没有计划 -南方古猿- ♂ (140 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:30:58

• 您先搞清楚这场战争是谁先打起来的，行吗？ -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:36:48

• 赐教 -南方古猿- ♂ (0 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 22:00:33

• 赐教不敢当，请你看我在上面回心姐的帖子里的人民日报的官方评论吧。 -看客2010- ♀ (0 bytes) () 10/09/2021 postreply 14:19:29

• 如果中国是中華民國，那么就可能就跟美国是同一陣营，而與蘇聯為敵。。情形馬上不同了。 -中间小谢- ♂ (484 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 20:51:14

• 所以在大歷史面前，朝鲜战争也衹是細節。 -中间小谢- ♂ (173 bytes) () 10/08/2021 postreply 21:04:15