有个Maharshi, Ramana的问答。谈到，只有当人们真正通过打坐修行，实证到这个世界是虚幻时，才能真正认识自我是怎么回事儿。他这个“世界消失”，和佛教的“色即是空”应该是一个真实过程
Q4. When will the realization of the Self be gained?
A: When the world which is what-is-seen has been removed, there will be realization of the Self which is the seer.
Q5. Will there not be realization of the Self even while the world is there (taken as real)?
A: There will not be.
Maharshi, Ramana . Who Am I? (p. 10). Sanage Publishing. Kindle Edition.
