Science and Democracy

本帖于 2023-05-23 08:44:25 时间, 由普通用户 renqiulan 编辑

Science is not about votes or people's will. It is wholly and solely about fact, fact, and fact. But facts can be manipulated. Science debunks manipulated facts otherwise known as untruths. Truth turns up only when no stone is unturned. 

Scientists are investigators through and through. Science is a fact-finding mission first and foremost. Its findings have to be peer-reviewed so that doubts can be raised and addressed. 

That's why secret science projects always arouse public suspicion. In an open society, we have elected officials who are supposed to monitor secret science projects. But we remain skeptical, knowing that elected officials could be asleep on the swithch for whatever reason. In a close society, meanwhile, being skeptical is being in danger.

Compared to autocracy, democracy is much more conducive to self-rectification because everything under the sun is subject to debate. No serious science can thrive without open debate.

Science and democracy are NOT two sides of the same coin. Still, science can benefit hugely from democracy, and vice versa.


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科学与民主。五四话题及主題。 -LYJiang- 给 LYJiang 发送悄悄话 LYJiang 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:09:38

一个世纪过去了,中土或明或暗地还想赛先生跟德先生聚首一堂。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:13:10

以我所思所见,中土上赛德两位先生神貌不合,因为德先生早已被放逐了。 -LYJiang- 给 LYJiang 发送悄悄话 LYJiang 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:17:14

好宽的话题! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:14:41

午夜深思区。。。。。。 -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:16:02

好个“午夜深思区”。酷得很! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:24:17

谢谢猫姐。拙文短论一篇,摘取要义,聚焦在两者关糸上。 -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:20:39

"But facts can be manipulated." True and true and true. -寒苇- 给 寒苇 发送悄悄话 寒苇 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:30:11

Democracy is critical for science in the long run. Agree. -唐宋韵- 给 唐宋韵 发送悄悄话 唐宋韵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:35:51

Thanks for your input. Are you implying secret projects? -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:38:18

Private company, no much peer-review.... But we mostly -唐宋韵- 给 唐宋韵 发送悄悄话 唐宋韵 的博客首页 (59 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:42:50

Let's face it. Bald-faced lies are a fact of life. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:36:44

You like using puns, don't you? -寒苇- 给 寒苇 发送悄悄话 寒苇 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:39:55

Yes, whenever I get a chance. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:41:39

Seriously, Nazi Germany was technologically advanced. -寒苇- 给 寒苇 发送悄悄话 寒苇 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:45:30

Still the U.S. beat the Nazi, big time. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:48:40

Are you going to see the movie "Oppenheimer"? -寒苇- 给 寒苇 发送悄悄话 寒苇 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:50:06

My wife and I won't miss it. And you? -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:52:21

我和我老公也要看它! -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:58:32

Good idea. I hope it won't disappoint us. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:00:49

你说的百元美钞上面那位?$100 features Ben Franklin,富兰克林,既是搞科学的又是搞民主的 -:) -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:51:00

Right, but he had more confidence in science than democracy. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:56:52

The founding fathers' democracy wasn't quite inclusive. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:59:19

难比得匀? -lovecat08- 给 lovecat08 发送悄悄话 lovecat08 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 20:59:35

Democracy, like science, is evolving as we speak. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:04:19

today we got a black senator running for president, it was unlik -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:12:00

kly in Franklin era, while $100 worth less each day. -AP33912- 给 AP33912 发送悄悄话 AP33912 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:15:00

America was reborn, thanks to the Civil War. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:26:27

一个关于fact 的真实故事 -唐宋韵- 给 唐宋韵 发送悄悄话 唐宋韵 的博客首页 (886 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:20:13

I hope you'll post it and let open discussion begin. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:29:11

If you believe that's important and interesting, I'd love to -唐宋韵- 给 唐宋韵 发送悄悄话 唐宋韵 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:31:48

Yes I do. Please go ahead and post it. -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/22/2023 postreply 21:48:20

lots of fake truth -ahniu- 给 ahniu 发送悄悄话 ahniu 的博客首页 (120 bytes) () 05/23/2023 postreply 05:12:23

对。欢迎发帖,交流观点与角度。谢谢! -renqiulan- 给 renqiulan 发送悄悄话 renqiulan 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 05/23/2023 postreply 06:52:37

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