回答用户回答徒劳的2个问题

1。资本主义社会就不能有社会福利？社会福利不就是政府把一部分人的财富转移给另一部分人？

Of course you can. But there is a difference between capitalism and socialism. In socialist countries, wealth is transferred by force of the sovereignty.

In capitalism countries, wealth is also transferred by force of the sovereignty. It is enforced by tax law, you break the law by not paying tax, you go to jail.

The portion contributed by a group of people is significantly larger than the rest.

It is way the tax law defined. Higher income group pay higher tax rate. Period. Nothing to do with socialist or capitalist.

The direct result is the income of majority of the population is more or less the same, regardless their occupation and contribution to the society. 

This is GOP’s deception. The TAX law has been around for centuries, but the riches got richer, and poor poorer.

 

2。这次奥巴马提出的把收入25万以上的人的税收恢复到小布什之前的水平（不是增加！），是为了偿还国债，而不是社会福利。这和社会主义资本主义有啥关系？减少国债是社会主义？

Bush reduced the tax for ALL Americans. Obama hike the tax only on 'rich' Americans whose income are more than $250k. Can you see the difference? I have no trouble to restore the tax code back to pre-Bush level, so that we can reduce the national debt. I even think Bush tax cut is a huge financial miscalculation. However, it is moral and material wrong to target a small group of people in name of social justice.

The Bush tax cuts meant to be temporary and like you said, they were huge financial miscalculation. They caused huge deficit and debt we are facing today. We should let them go. But, with today’s economy, the tax hike will disproportionately impact the low and middle incomers who are still struggling to recover from the recession; therefore, let Bush tax cuts expire only on 1% of super-rich is reasonable to me. BTW, actually, as a group, the super-rich are paying less tax than average Americans. Just look at mitt Romney and Warren Buffet. They are paying lower tax rate than the people work for them.

 

The funny thing is that many 250K+ families live in northeast or west coast. I believe many vote for Obama. Now they get the reward. 

Not funny at all. Half of Wealthy Americans Agree with Buffett, Would Pay Higher Taxes. These are the people with good conscious and care about their countries.  

 

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• 回答徒劳回答用户回答徒劳的2个问题 -用户名被占用了- ♂ (2460 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:39:24

• 你们俩真是吃饱了闲的 -仨饱一倒- ♂ (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:43:50

• you are right. i should shut up :))) -用户名被占用了- ♂ (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:51:55

• 你的回答是 徒劳 滴 -仨饱一倒- ♂ (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:43:07

• Like last statement. We don't just talk about being -SJSharks- ♂ (913 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:06:54

• In last 10 years,to my memory, CA had budget short fall all the -WXC1204- ♂ (110 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:15:06

• It could have been much worse w/out needed tax revenue. -SJSharks- ♂ (108 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:26:23

• now it will be easier, dem has 2/3 in both chambers. -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:29:24

• no tax prop needed -WXC1204- ♂ (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:30:34

• Even churches asked for goers to vote for both Props 30 and 38. -SJSharks- ♂ (134 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:36:46

• Actually I do have child in school, and I work for school -WXC1204- ♂ (40 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:40:20

• Then mis-management is different issue. U C systems and my kid -SJSharks- ♂ (94 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:50:05

• not only mismanagement, it is the state policy issue. The curren -WXC1204- ♂ (593 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:07:00

• 哈哈哈！Funny! it is pay back time then! Considering we -SJSharks- ♂ (304 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:19:23

• Good to know your perspective.. Will most tax revenue local? -SJSharks- ♂ (93 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:45:32

• The increased tax as you called needed tax apparent doesn't stop -WXC1204- ♂ (65 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:36:41

• Not up to U or Me buddy. People have spoken, at least -SJSharks- ♂ (8 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:39:23