回答徒劳的2个问题:你在故意曲解布什减税和奥巴马增税的区别

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1。资本主义社会就不能有社会福利?社会福利不就是政府把一部分人的财富转移给另一部分人?

Of course you can. But there is a difference between capitalism and socialism. In socialist countries, wealth is transferred by force of the sovereignty. The portion contributed by a group of people is signficantly larger than the rest. The direct result is the income of majority of the population is more or less the same, regardless their occupation and contribution to the society. 

 

2。这次奥巴马提出的把收入25万以上的人的税收恢复到小布什之前的水平(不是增加!),是为了偿还国债,而不是社会福利。这和社会主义资本主义有啥关系?减少国债是社会主义?

Bush reduced the tax for ALL Americans. Obama hike the tax only on 'rich' Americans whose income are more than $250k. Can you see the difference? I have no trouble to restore the tax code back to pre-Bush level, so that we can reduce the national debt. I even think Bush tax cut is a huge financial miscalculation. However, it is moral and material wrong to target a small group of people in name of social justice.

 

The funny thing is that many 250K+ families live in northeast or west coast. I believe many vote for Obama. Now they get the reward. 

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回答用户回答徒劳的2个问题 -徒劳- 给 徒劳 发送悄悄话 (5205 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:26:44

回答徒劳回答用户回答徒劳的2个问题 -用户名被占用了- 给 用户名被占用了 发送悄悄话 用户名被占用了 的博客首页 (2460 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:39:24

你们俩真是吃饱了闲的 -仨饱一倒- 给 仨饱一倒 发送悄悄话 仨饱一倒 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:43:50

you are right. i should shut up :))) -用户名被占用了- 给 用户名被占用了 发送悄悄话 用户名被占用了 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:51:55

你的回答是 徒劳 滴 -仨饱一倒- 给 仨饱一倒 发送悄悄话 仨饱一倒 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 06:43:07

Like last statement. We don't just talk about being -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (913 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:06:54

In last 10 years,to my memory, CA had budget short fall all the -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (110 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:15:06

It could have been much worse w/out needed tax revenue. -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (108 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:26:23

now it will be easier, dem has 2/3 in both chambers. -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:29:24

no tax prop needed -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:30:34

Even churches asked for goers to vote for both Props 30 and 38. -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (134 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:36:46

Actually I do have child in school, and I work for school -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (40 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:40:20

Then mis-management is different issue. U C systems and my kid -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (94 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:50:05

not only mismanagement, it is the state policy issue. The curren -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (593 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:07:00

哈哈哈!Funny! it is pay back time then! Considering we -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (304 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:19:23

Good to know your perspective.. Will most tax revenue local? -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (93 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 08:45:32

The increased tax as you called needed tax apparent doesn't stop -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (65 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:36:41

Not up to U or Me buddy. People have spoken, at least -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (8 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:39:23

The key is growth,with the negative or flat growth(consider infl -WXC1204- 给 WXC1204 发送悄悄话 (477 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:02:28

The key is growth, exact reason tax and proper spending are need -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:12:47

任何时候行情都是能瓜分到利益尽量瓜分。弱肉强食。然后强者也会死。 -SJSharks- 给 SJSharks 发送悄悄话 (120 bytes) () 11/10/2012 postreply 07:22:06

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