Believe or not, health care is a form of social service because

Believe or not, health care is a form of social service because everybody needs it, just like FOOD. It's a basic need of being a being.

Do you have the liberty to go hungry and die? You do. But, as a society, do we have the liberty to allow massive deaths just because some can not afford food? If you had the liberty not to get ill ever, yah, you'd have the liberty not receiving health care. As far as I know, you do get ill, once in a while.

Health insurance is a social service and we want to make it not a social service? I just don't get your circular arguement. Why everybody getting insurance is equivalent to nobody having insurance? You are insured against each other? No, you are insured against an event that is often out of your control. Yes, illness is often uncontrollable event. 

You point to Canada, first, Canadian system is a working system where everybody can afford to have health care. Second, US system is not Canadian system. We still have private insurance, mixed with government-subsidized public system.

Why a hospital closure now is the fault of a law/policy that will take effect two years from now? 

The cost has been going higher for the past 50 years, if you have not noticed. If you have spent any time studying the health care cost, you will not say this. In terms of GDP, US health care is the most expensive in the world, about twice as expensive as any other industrillized countries. Yet, about 30-40% of the population have essentially no access to health care. If we factor that in, the effective per-capita cost is abot 3 times more expensive than other developed nations. Why? Because health insurance is a social service and US runs it as private industries.

Not every private enterprice is efficient, mind you. You can't privatize a government, for example. Well, human society, for the past several thousand years, did try private governance. It did not work. When it comes to social service, private enterprises are poorly equiped because their purpose is to make money, as much as they can and be responsible to their shareholders and rightfully so.

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• 每个人都保，当然跟没保一样，去加拿大享受一下“高质量”全民医保，你就知道 -何大款- ♂ (106 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:49:33

• 难道你没读接下来那句？美国医保不是加拿大医保。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:51:32

• 所以说你不了解呢，加拿大除了全民医保也有私人保险，没区别；可我凭什么再花额外的钱 -何大款- ♂ (41 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:56:42

• 这就是你的等价？加拿大以全民医保为主，美国以私人医保为主。所以说你更不了解呢。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:59:52

• 你没喝高吧？欧八的医保计划最终的目地是什么？不是全民医保？你问问加拿大挣6万以上的人 -何大款- ♂ (73 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:04:42

• 要是全民医保就更好了。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:08:00

• 你算算你现在的医疗“税”，绝对比加拿大的高。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:14:19

• 而且，全国平均高两倍。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:17:54

• 你这么说的话，真的说明你对加拿大的医疗税收没概念，我加拿大的同学说挣7万和3万， -何大款- ♂ (161 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:20:46

• 加拿大的税都是医疗税？ -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:22:41

• 很大一部分，先去做你擅长的调查，然后再决定是不是闭嘴。。 -何大款- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:26:17

• 很大一部分？行，你拿你的数据来吧。（我下面已经给了我的调查。） -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:30:10

• "Employer Health Tax", of 1.95% of payroll。听起来很低很低呀。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (255 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 19:28:04

• 嗯，这同学的夜壶挂在哪儿了？ -徒劳- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:50:54

• 废话，还能有哪儿？ 裆下。。 -何大款- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:52:11

• 煮鸟？熟了吗？ -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:53:15

• 挂大款脖子上了。 -老忽叔叔- ♂ (0 bytes) () 06/28/2012 postreply 18:52:22