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这些人真的是要挑战科学以及伦理道德的底线,并试图用法律来混淆科学问题,真做到了不知羞耻。人们现在在怀疑是不是整个科学界对博士生的教育就缺乏伦理道德和基本写作方面的培训。

http://www.ipscell.com/2014/05/did-obokata-get-a-fair-shake-on-stap-cell-mess/#comment-28099


1)Shunsuke Ishii, the head of the Riken’s investigative committee, resigned after exposure of inappropriate image manipulation in his own publication (Oncogene, 2008 and JBC, 2004).

He defended that his presentation was “not a problem, according to the rules ten years ago”. Now this is a total b.s. As I explained in my previous post, this kind of image manipulation was clearly a problem even 10 years ago. If Obokata is fired and Ishii gets away (one of the journals already accepted his corrigendum), I would say it’s completely unfair. Intent is irrelevant. Raw data cannot be manipulated in certain ways or such manipulation has to be disclosed.

2)One of the problems in the STAP papers was already pointed out in 2012!!! And the authors just ignored it??? Well, now we know Obokata is sloppy, allegedly, so I can imagine she just missed this comment, but what about other authors? Don’t you read reviewers’ comments very carefully, especially when you got rejected, and try to incorporate them when you revise your manuscript? What’s going on? Now I don’t think other senior authors (except Sasai, who hadn’t joined the band yet in 2012) can possibly claim that they didn’t’ know, thus they are innocent。

3)It seems obvious that standards for PhD theses within Japan, at least at some universities, were virtually non-existent, and that wide-spread copying-and pasting of text, plagiarism, to put it bluntly, was more or less openly tolerated. I have no idea how widespread figure-doctoring is in Japanese biological science, but as an outsider I’m guessing there are a fair number of people who do it at least sometimes (judging from the Riken committee members).

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对这段话很感兴趣, -静斋居士- 给 静斋居士 发送悄悄话 静斋居士 的博客首页 (1426 bytes) () 05/08/2014 postreply 19:01:32

问题是这些人都没有表现出teamwork精神来。 -Sunnylian.- 给 Sunnylian. 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 05/08/2014 postreply 19:11:34

哪里有空teamwork?每年9,10月份申请fund,比写文章还花时间, -王翠花- 给 王翠花 发送悄悄话 王翠花 的博客首页 (217 bytes) () 05/08/2014 postreply 20:59:12

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