去年EA Harvard AO 打分 overall 2分

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Academic Rating   2+

Extracurricular Rating 2

Athletic Rating            4

Personal Rating    2

 

Overall: 2 (假设第一个最大格子是 overall score)

校友 interview 2+ (校友EC 打分是 1-

校友interview 之后有一框,打分是 2+。 不知道是什么。

 

其它还有几个打分,不知道是什么意思。 也都是2 (2+ or 2-).

两个 AO 看起来基本一致。 评语很积极。但是 AO highlighted 的地方和我们原来想的(本坛排名)并非一致。有些差别。 甚至同一类EC, AO highlighted 的是低一级别的成绩。

有些缩写看不懂, 比如 AIV, FH?

 

打分和我们原来想的有些不一样。比如EC部分,我们认为会比2高, 应该 1- or 至少2+. 看起来这个一分大刺二分刺也不好区分。 Personal Rating    2 这个有点超出预期。因为一般都说亚裔这这个方面很容易被压分。

总分2,四大类里3个2分, 一个4分。 大数据说是 43-80% 录取率。

看起来大学申请,家长和孩子的预判和实际都会有出入。 运气成分很重要。 我们是运气好,personal 部分也拿到2分,幸运地被录取了。要不然两个 2分估计录取就悬了 

 

 

 

对打分分析

First, a breakdown of how Harvard's 4 main factors are assessed on a scale of 1-6 (1 being the best):

Academic Rating (0.5% of applicants get a 1, 42.3% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Summa potential. Genuine scholar; near-perfect scores and grades (in most cases) combined with unusual creativity and possible evidence of original scholarship.

  2. Magna potential: Excellent student with superb grades and mid-to-high-700 scores (33+ ACT).

  3. Cum laude potential: Very good student with excellent grades and mid-600 to low-700 scores (29 to 32 ACT).

  4. Adequate preparation. Respectable grades and low-to-mid-600 scores (26 to 29) ACT).

  5. Marginal potential. Modest grades and 500 scores (25 and below ACT).

  6. Achievement or motivation marginal or worse.

Difference between 1 and 2: You need to show academic excellence outside of just your grades and test scores in order to get a 1, most often through very prestigious academic competitions/awards and/or published research with a professor.

 

Extracurricular Rating (0.3% of applicants get a 1, 23.8% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Unusual strength in one or more areas. Possible national-level achievement or professional experience. A potential major contributor at Harvard. Truly unusual achievement.

  2. Strong secondary school contribution in one or more areas such as class president, newspaper editor, etc. Local or regional recognition; major accomplishment(s).[in another filing]: "Significant school, and possibly regional accomplishments: for example, an applicant who was the student body president or captain of the debate team and the leader of multiple additional clubs."

  3. Solid participation but without special distinction. (Upgrade 3+ to 2- in some cases if the e/c is particularly extensive and substantive.)

  4. Little or no participation.

  5. Substantial activity outside of conventional EC participation such as family commitments or term-time work (could be included with other e/c to boost the rating or left as a "5" if it is more representative of the student's commitment).

  6. Special circumstances limit or prevent participation (e.g. a physical condition).

Difference between 1 and 2: You have to achieve at a national/professional level in your activities in order to get a 1, simply being elite at a school or state level will not get you over a 2 in this category.

 

Athletic Rating (0.9% of applicants get a 1, 9.2% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Unusually strong prospect for varsity sports at Harvard, desired by Harvard coaches.

  2. Strong secondary school contribution in one or more areas; possible leadership role(s).

  3. Active participation.

  4. Little or no interest.

  5. Substantial activity outside of conventional EC participation such as family commitments or term-time work (could be included with other e/c to boost the rating or left as a "5" if it is more representative of the student's commitment).

  6. Physical condition prevents significant activity.

Difference between 1 and 2: Being recruited for a sport will get you a 1 here, but you can still help out your case a lot by being a strong non-recruited high school athlete and qualifying for a 2.

 

Personal Rating (0.0% of applicants -- or below 50 total every year -- get a 1, 20.8% of applicants get a 2):

  1. Outstanding

  2. Very Strong

  3. Generally Positive

  4. Bland or somewhat negative or immature

  5. Questionable personal qualities

  6. Worrisome personal qualities

Difference between 1 and 2: Way too vague to tell for sure, but some traits I often heard from Harvard alumni interviewers for students that received a 1 are "seemed like they would be amazing friends for their classmates", "didn't appear to treat college like a competition for grades", "wouldn't be intimidated by other bright and active people", and "memorable even 20-30 years later." Essentially, you must stand out as a person everyone wants to be around (which is highly subjective)... how you do that is really a unique thing for everyone

 

 

Chances of admission to Harvard based on these ratings:

Candidates who Excel in One Dimension:

  1. Academic rating of 1, no other 1s: 68% admission rate

  2. Extracurricular rating of 1, no other 1s: 48% admission rate

  3. Personal rating of 1, no other 1s: 66% admission rate

  4. Athletic rating of 1, no other 1s: 88% admission rate

 

Multi-Dimensional (or "well-rounded") Candidates:

  1. Three ratings of 2, one rating of 3 or 4: 43% admission rate

  2. Four ratings of 2: 68% admission rate

 

Weaker Candidates:

  1. No ratings of 1 or 2: 0.1% admission rate

所有跟帖: 

感谢分享。看来你家娃体育占分很高? -HappyWed- 给 HappyWed 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:43:54

分数越低越好。楼主家体育应该一般。但个性给分很高。 -Rockeymountain- 给 Rockeymountain 发送悄悄话 Rockeymountain 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:49:15

我也是看了半天才看明白,原来分数越低越好。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:55:49

学习了。 -小团员- 给 小团员 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 18:49:36

体育1分是recruit级别,会有88%的录取率,只要成绩达标,估计就给录取了。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:56:32

原来如此 -HappyWed- 给 HappyWed 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:02:27

我估计藤校对于recruit体育生的成绩要求最起码是unweighted3。0以上,SAT1200以上。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (66 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:09:48

当然我的估计可能过低,实际录取要求也看当年申请的人群。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:10:53

看来体育recruit的平均SAT也快到1400了。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:08:10

谢谢分享。一直好奇听说藤校每个category打分,原来是这么打的。以前亚裔的personality低分低, -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (49 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 12:59:12

这就是我前些日子说的“无悬念进H”的牛蛙家爸爸 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:05:09

overview 打分录取几率 -forestbamboo- 给 forestbamboo 发送悄悄话 (7657 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:05:11

对于H来讲,大数据是用来掩盖各种猫腻的。根本没有什么几率而言 -avw- 给 avw 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:34:32

看来那个 EC 奖项 排名全是胡扯 -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:24:00

应该不是全部没用,只是可能大学评分比这个排名复杂 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:50:35

你怎么得出EC都是胡扯? -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:53:51

楼主家7以上的奖项有3,4个,我记得。所以EC这部分给分偏低,估计还有更复杂的因素在rating中起作用 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 13:58:49

什么是“7以上的奖项有3,4个”?你指的是楼主的孩子有national level的EC奖项有3-4个? -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:06:00

我记得是这样的,所以校友面试EC给了1-。这个牛蛙就是去年楼主说缺课收到学校发的信息的那个,GPA全年级第二 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:07:15

以前有个 EC 奖项的打分,7 分以上算是大奖 USAMO 级别的 -STEMkid- 给 STEMkid 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:09:00

我估计还有个纵向比较,比如正好有一个IMO的申请H,AMO的得分就会变低 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:10:48

现在这个就是得分1吧。只有0。3%的申请人得到1的分数,而23%的申请人都得到EC2的分数。 -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:25:43

1比2不是更好? -Pilsung- 给 Pilsung 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:07:06

非常难得到1,overall,估计 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:09:31

哦哦 -两女宝妈- 给 两女宝妈 发送悄悄话 两女宝妈 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 14:13:03

2比2+ 好 -Bebe54321- 给 Bebe54321 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:28:08

推荐信打分呢?校友interview的weight并不重。 -ccb168- 给 ccb168 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:30:00

分数越低越好,但好像2+又比2-好。 -ccb168- 给 ccb168 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:31:00

personal 分数好说明essay体现的personali好? -ccb168- 给 ccb168 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 15:36:00

除了特招,体育在H的录取中并不重要。我们学校去H的基本都没有体育的。 -ccb168- 给 ccb168 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:19:00

多谢分享,要是能知道得了什么类别的大奖就更好了 -newmom-- 给 newmom- 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:19:59

感谢分享! -newca- 给 newca 发送悄悄话 newca 的博客首页 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 16:21:16

赞,终于看见一个有营养的帖子 -Gl4ll- 给 Gl4ll 发送悄悄话 (0 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 17:55:56

这个分析是不是太友好了啊。 -randomness- 给 randomness 发送悄悄话 (160 bytes) () 11/24/2023 postreply 18:38:31

应该是标准和列出来的不一样。得2分估计也不容易。 比如你SAT满分,选最难得课,GPA领先没有其它 spike 估计最多 -forestbamboo- 给 forestbamboo 发送悄悄话 (76 bytes) () 11/25/2023 postreply 11:46:39

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