I had lots of fun last night, thanks to the vice presidential debate. Instead of wine, I had some scotch, as if there wasn't enough fire in the debate. After the debate, talking heads called it a draw, and various news polling had Ryan leading.
I checked the amount of alcohol I consumed, and was sure that I wasn't drunk and not even 微醺. Then I was seriously baffled and deeply troubled. What could Paul Ryan possibly be winning, at all? All the focus was on Biden's smirks or condescending tone. Was Joe extremely rude or violent? Did he call Ryan names? Did he lie about Ryan's position? The answers are no, but then why is his smirk more important than everything else?
This is supposed to be a political debate, and it should be about facts, logic, and debaters' ability to deliver the message, while maintaining a civil manner. This is NOT a contest of "can you stand my stupidity?". Then, how in the world, would you "win" a debate because your opponent smirked?
Frankly, 4 years ago, I didn't think Obama was up to the job, because he wasn't experienced of anything at all, not because of McCain's facial expression. 4 years later, Obama didn't deliver great result in economy and job market, although he was constrained by 2 wars and the blew up of financial crisis. I can totally understand the notion that people want some change, to see whether others can do the job better. But we are talking about "winning" the debate here. When I see comments like "this guy is nice enough for me to hang out with, or have a beer with", my blood is boiling. Bush junior won because "he's good to have a beer with", and the whole world saw what that criteria turned out to be.
Libya was not a pretty picture for sure, and Biden couldn't talk the administration out of it. But Romney/Ryan didn't know what to do either. Iran's nuclear ambition is certainly a concern, but the "we shouldn't wait for Putin to give us green light" line was just laughable. Tax cut, job creation, and deficit reduction, wouldn't be achieved at the same time, miraculously, just because Romney/Ryan "promised" to close loopholes, while they are sitting on the most gigantic one!
When pressed by both Biden and the moderator on how and what to cut, Ryan kept repeating himself, but he was basically saying, I don't know, but I will, please look at my ugly face and trust me.
Politics is about winning more people, or simply put, hijacking people, for lacking of better term. Whenever Ryan started about "small businesses", Biden cut him off by differentiating 97% of the small businesses weren't the ones Ryan was actually referring to. He sounded rude, I agree. But I think he did the right thing. Obama was too passive and allowed Romney to dictate the debate flow, and allowed him to let false information or perception to set into people's mind. Biden did the right thing by not allowing that hijack. His message was clear, we have already hijacked those people with real money, you can't do it by blurring the definition with empty words.
Attacking or disagreeing with Obama's policies all you want, but ask yourself, what has Ryan offered last night? Let me recap for you:
Ryan - "You did it all wrong!"
Bidne - "What would you do differently?"
Ryan - "I don't know what and how, but I will achieve that rosy picture. There will be no pain, all gain for you!"
Biden smirks
Ryan - "I win!".
Media - he wins!
People, please wake up! Put down whatever you are smoking, it ain't healthy. Everyone should have some kind of ambition or belief that you want to improve and you can improve yourself and your situation. You shouldn't hope that the whole nation dumb down so that you can feel good about yourself.
In a debate, when your opponent doesn't have any clue about what's he's talking about, and still poses as a proud ignorant person, you might want to control yourself NOT to punch his ugly face, but you are certainly entitled to dismiss him with a CONDESCENDING TONE!
What could Paul Ryan possibly be winning, seriously?
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他输了?没觉得,那个主持是女士,不支持再打仗。
-看热闹的北京人-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:04:11
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一个战争,一个堕胎,当着女主持谈肯定很困难,不输才怪。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:13:28
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biden blew up himself. he was more forceful ang a bit more subst
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:21:46
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有点过于讨好老头老太的意思。其实那样也不公平,给人“我吃定你了”的感觉。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:10:53
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obama was weirdly passive and biden was weirdly aggresive
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:15:50
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顶W总雄文!在总结陈述前我就觉得拜登完胜了。我注重的是辩论的内容的本身。
-老看客-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:20:27
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选民们太蠢是民主的最大威胁,LOL。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:24:48
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lili真觉得选民太蠢?
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:27:20
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觉得ryan表现好,不是蠢?
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:29:34
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show the budget plan, how to reduce the deficit.
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:32:29
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如果能专门调查中间独立选民的看法,结果一定会相当有意思:))
-老看客-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:43:07
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我本身就是一个没拿定主意的选民,和和。你呢?:))
-老看客-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:25:39
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拉票! 选Rommy 吧! 要不要传单?俺们的前州长喔。
-lilipp-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:31:13
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就是啦。。。。
-lilipp-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:36:16
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Did you vote for the "Internet founder" Gore, and "flip-flop" Ke
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:42:39
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我对08也不满意。但是觉得共和党实在无法认同。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:33:45
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我也在看。Romney搞经济可能会略强一些,这也是我拿不定主意的根本原因。
-老看客-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:40:57
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RYAN成了CRYING BABY. 或者是RYAN的支持者。呵呵。同意你的看法。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:27:00
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在中间独立选民中,愿意思考问题的人比例很高。他们会更偏重辩论的实质内容。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:34:20
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都是08的错。他太meek。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:20:39
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O8那场辩论确实不在状态。还有两场,到时看吧!
-老看客-
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:38:48
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本来嘛, 选总统就是看人是不是比较讨人喜欢。 这是为啥O8还是会赢的原因。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:36:49
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假设投票之前,需要通过一个基本知识考试, 只有考过的人才有资格选举。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:39:06
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经济上Romney可能略强一些。但当总统要有比较全面的素质,我觉得O8 overall更强。
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10/12/2012 postreply
08:50:23
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哦8 对经济是一头雾水,和romeny比, 差距很大。 其他方面,o8的演讲从来都是缺乏逻辑。
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10/12/2012 postreply
09:05:56
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CBS辩论后的民意调查是Biden 50% vs Ryan 31
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10/12/2012 postreply
09:47:22