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we are talking about fed+state income tax, as singlewave consistently claimed it was over 30% for his $80k/yr income.

otherwise there will be property tax, sales tax, etc., which appears to make the u.s. look having higher tax rate. however, does anyone will like to return to a society where it is totally "tax-free", like china before 1978?

to me, it doesn't really matter what tax rate is. rather, what is more important is whether we get to keep more or less after the tax is applied, when comparing with two societies.