小中的中文翻译水平参考

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为了避免歧义和争执。俺标题用小中。不用ABC和小留了。

俺的大作被那边坛子的热心人翻译成英文，供其他中文不流利的ABC阅读。对照翻译看看还是挺有意思的。至少知道他们中文的深浅程度。供大家参考。

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Comment translation requests here. First, the request from /u/akash312, thanks to /u/the0clean0slate for the link: http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/3437000.html

After looking carefully ar ArmorUSA's post, i feel that he writes vey realistically, and his Mandarin is excellent. As a first generation migrant, we should be proud if the next gen (1.5) can write as well as him. Those who criticise his english, call him a bastard, and other insults, should feel shamed.

我仔细看了ArmorUSA的帖子，觉得写的很实在，中文也写得很棒。我们作为第一代移民，应该为我们的下一代（1.5代）能够写出这样的中文自豪。对那些对作者英文吹毛求疵，鸡蛋里面挑骨头的评论我感到很羞愧。

MY thoughts while reading was "Good child, if my own child can write as well as you, I would buy him first class tickets back so that his uncle can hug him, and his aunt can give him a good meal.

我想说，“好孩子，要是我家娃中文能写成你这样。俺会激动地给他回国买头等舱。来，让叔抱一抱，抚慰一下你这个被大妈们批得体无完肤的小鲜肉。”

What the author writes is reality. There is no falsehood. The haters are nitpicking his english, he is not the definition of ABC, etc. If Obama, who is half-white can identify as black, how can you say he's not ABC? (Translator note: Context - Author is a 1.5 gen, migrated when very young)

作者本人的故事基本真实。没有什么假的。坛子里的质疑声大部分是吹毛求疵。什么不符合ABC的定义啦，什么英文不正宗啊。大搞人身攻击，毫无必要。ABC这些族裔的定义本身就很模糊，基本是大体符合，当事人自我认同就可以。奥巴马的自我认同是黑人，你有本事和抬杠说他是一半白人一半黑人，所以不能叫黑人？

Perhaps the ABCs, and your children is not the same. Maybe they are very sociable. Maybe they married a white woman. Maybe they have a white Secretary. However, this does not dismiss the demographic of armorUSA. From statistics, Asian boys are the most discriminated against. If you look at intermarriage data, you can tell that Asian girls marry white boys, and Asian boys, at the most, they marry (translation unclear? Seems to be a slang?)

你的孩子，你的认识的ABC的境遇和心态，也许和他不一样。也许他们在花街混的很好，也许他们娶了个白妞做老婆，也许有金发美女做秘书。但是不等于ArmorUSA和他所在的特定人群就没有这些心理困难。从统计数据上看，亚裔男孩的确是最被歧视的。你看看族裔通婚的数据就知道了，白男娶亚女，而亚裔男生娶的最多的是劳模女。

Marriage is an indicator of social standing, and Asian boys and Black women are the lowest.

婚姻状况看社会阶层最准，亚裔男和非裔女，都是种族台阶的下面几层。

What pisses Asian men off the most is that even Asian women discriminates against them.

最让亚裔男不爽的，其实是亚裔女对他们也歧视。

For us, the first generation who have such strong cultural ties, to treat someone with such great Chinese language ability with such coldness, is something which is very wrong. To the extent we force the author to reply in English. Aunties and uncles (refering to themselves), why do you use such heavy words?

对于这样的弱势小鲜肉。我们作为上一代，对于文化认同感这样强的下一代，对中文这么棒的下一代，冷言冷语，实在不应该。甚至逼着作者用英文回复，更是不应该。大妈大叔们，你们是怎么下得这么重的口？

I lived in America for 20 years. These are the few points I agree with Armor USA

我在美国生活了20年了，几点观察和ArmorUSA一致的地方。

1) It is harder for Asian males, both in the workplace and the dating realm.

1）亚裔男性比亚裔女性要更艰难。无论是职场还是择偶。

2) It is important to have professional connections. Especially for law, finance, politics, etc. All these are specialised work that is not easy to understand. A

2）特定职业圈子很重要。特别是律师，金融，政治等行业。这点是凭手艺吃饭码工们不容易难理解的。码工的圈子也重要，但是没有那么重要。

3) As minorities, thin skinned or shy people will suffer. Extroverted people, with thick skin, DGAF what other people think of you, will not suffer.

3）作为少数族裔，内心敏感的人，内向的人，同时又有抱负的人会生活的比较痛苦。如果你是个外向的人，不敏感，脸皮厚一点，不在意别人对你的看法，不介意凑上去的感觉，容易混的开。就不会有这些痛苦。

4) As first generation migrants, we do not know the feeling of being minorities. Even after migration to America, we still have roots back home, so its hard to understand someone with no roots.

4）我们第一代移民，从小是主流社会长大，不知道作为少数族裔的痛苦。即使后来到了美国，任然有中国的根，所以是很难身临其境理解没有根的感觉的。

What I disagree with ArmorUSA

和ArmorUSA认同不一致的地方。

1) People cannot choose how to be born. Every generation has its own troubles. Child, this is life! Dealwithit.jpg. As a Han male (slang for masculine man), you have withstand heaven while being rooted to the earth (being unshakable) Compared to the children back in China, you do not have the national exams. You do not face earthquakes, like the people in tangshan. You do not face war, unlike the old veterans. Compared to the Koreans, you do not have to be forced into group thought like them. Your parents have also suffered countless nights of labour to raise you. You are but a youngling, so why do you murmur against your elders so much?

1）人不能选择自己的出生。每一代人有每一代人的痛苦，每一群人有每一群人的痛苦。孩子，这就是你的命！You have to deal with it. 作为男子汉大丈夫，需要顶天立地，不是哭哭啼啼抱怨。尤其不能抱怨自己的父母。比起国内的孩子你还没参加高考呢。比起唐山人民你还没经历地震呢。比起老布什，你还没去战场呢。比起朝鲜人民你还没学主体思想呢。父母生我养我者也。要不是多年前的那天晚上他们老人家不辞劳苦激情澎湃，哪里来的今天的你？也许你和朱悟能一样不定你投胎转世到哪里去呢。你个小兔崽子还抱怨个啥？

(saying how wenxue people are old fogeys) Wenxue people are old and rigid, and they are not sermonising to you, but are envious of your youth. If you want to find a sympathetic ear, go to the MIT BBS (probably the Chinese one?)

2）文学城的读者年龄老化严重。大妈一张口，地球抖三抖。大叔一声吼，风沙满地走。年纪大了，观念容易僵化。一僵化就容易和你较真。叔告诉你，他们不是在讲道理，是羡慕你年轻。 ArmorUSA如果想寻找知音，应该去买买提mit bbs 那个论坛去, 到同龄人中去，到80-90后中去，会找到很多知音。

3) In my experience, there is advantages to being a minority. You can be a bystander in the affairs of the majority, watch the drama, but it doesn't affect you (probably referring to politics?【bayfamily:指的是企业内部，不参与勾心斗角往上爬】) If you can change your state of mind, instead of being a participant (in politics/business?), you can be an observer. Why do you insist on being a participant?

3）我自己的生活体验，作为少数族裔，有少数族裔特有的乐趣。这也是主流族裔享受不到的。少数族裔最大的乐趣就可以看戏而不用唱戏。如果楼主不快乐，可以试试扭转心态，做个看戏的。人生何必一定要唱戏呢？

3(4?)) The author is a sensitive person. Maybe its better for him to migrate to a place with more Asian Americans? Like Canada? Maybe he can divert his attention to things that are not too serious, and things that make you happy? Perhaps IT, research, start a business, return back to your holiday for a tour, etc.

3）感觉作者是个内心敏感的人。或者搬到亚裔人多的地方更好一些。加拿大啦，加州啦。或者改行做那些圈子不是特别重要的事情可能会让你更加快乐。比如IT，比如科研领域，比如回国创业，再比如哈，做个小地主之类的。。。完了，又回老本行了。哈哈。